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The remonstrance and, laughingly, MY plan
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I have been asked if the remonstrance is "about me," what MY plan is, and how I would "maximize" education.
I'm positive that the remonstrance is not about me. It is about the whole of the community. I did nothing alone except sign a document or two, everything else has involved others. What happens will have little direct effect on me but a profound effect on our community in the next 20 to 50 years. As a disabled veteran, I do not pay the tax rate that most people do. My son starts his junior year at Northview next year. Whatever we do will affect him only as a taxpaying adult. I have one great-nephew and one granddaughter going into the third grade. Anything we do will not affect them positively because, by the time any project is completed, they will be out of the elementary schools. The construction may well affect them adversely, but that cannot be helped because it must occur at some point. At some point in time, a portion of our students is going to deal with it unless we build a new building on a plot of ground removed from current facilities. My plan is to have the community come up with a plan and hopefully before Dec. 2008. If I have to come up with a plan, it would take me ten years to deliver what should have came out of the school corporation last August instead of what did. When I read about project in The Brazil Times, I asked three questions of the school corporation via e-mail. "What are the ages of our buildings," "Why are we renovating old buildings instead of building their replacements," and "Why are we planning to spend $4.2 million dollars for a Bus Maintenance Facility that should be nothing more than a large pole barn?" As an answer to my query I was told that the plan was available to the public. I went to the Central Office where I was handed a fifteen to 20 sheaf of papers and told that that was the planned project. It contained mostly pictures and figures, cut and pasted, from a "construction" report ( http://www.peterli.com/global/pdfs/SPMCo... ) used to SELL building projects to the public and some financial details. (The construction report clearly states that these figures are only guidelines to be considered.) What the project plan did not contain was the research, comparisons, recommendations of "best practices" by educational organizations, such as the National School Board Association or the National Association of School Administrators, or even references to building codes and law, except the Americans with Disabilities Act, that would justified the need to expend money. Basically, that plan and the current one is nothing more than a small group, mainly school corporation employees, of the people involved telling the rest of the public that this is what we are going to do, whether it solves our problems, real or imaginary, or not. Even the county-wide committee of 28 people thought so highly of these plans that only one man stood up in the public meetings and identified himself as being a member to back the plan. The Corporation started prior to Sept. 2005 because there is a list of what the building committees requested contained in the September 2005 (if I'm not mistaken) meeting minutes of the school board. That absurd list and recommendations of actual structural needs from Buildings and Grounds went to the 28 member county-wide committee. They came up with $60 million dollars worth of expenditures. At some point, an architect was contacted. Between the architect, the county-wide committee, and the corporation, the $60 million was pared down to $53 million with a 22 year bond that would cost $98 million to retire. The community balked at that plan, so the corporation pared it down even more to the $26 million Elementary Renovation plan. That is the plan that I started the remonstrance to put the decision before the public over. I believe that this community can, and needs to, come up with a better plan. I know that I have a long month of hard work ahead of me. I'm not quite alone in this, but I am fully aware that the school corporation employees will turn out in force to proceed with the current plan. Most of them accept the current plan as the best that can be came up with, but, in my opinion, they are only taking into consideration their perspective as to the perceived needs and are not looking at the overall picture of the corporation's position today, within the next few years, or out a couple of decades, both financially and educationally. They are standing so close to the trees that they cannot see the forest. I AM not an expert, no one is. Some may hold the opinion a person is an expert, but I have found that the fastest way to get a difference of opinion is to get two perceived experts together and start a conversation on the subject they are "expert" in. There has been a lot of hype and fear-mongering spread about by a few people attempting to promote the two proposed plans and the one that was approved by the school board. Risks have been exaggerated to scare people into worrying about the modular classrooms as security risks or dangerous. People have stated that the students are at risk because of the modulars and having to move between them and the main buildings. These people forget that you have the very same children standing on the side of the road every school day. Tornadoes have been used to frighten people into worrying about the modulars, yet the modulars should be evacuated in inclement weather. The school corporation monitors the weather and has as much warning as is possible. If one of our brick school buildings is hit by a tornado when it is occupied, there is a good chance that someone is going to be seriously hurt. Then there was the bullets that impacted on Van Buren. No information has been released on that but there was a big stir over it. There was a lot of demand for security and a great flap about a vehicle that, apparently, just evaporated. Didn't that happen right before deer season? Four or five shots, about what it takes to check the sights on a rifle. Last week, a man walks into Northview through an unlocked back door to go to the bathroom and it makes the front page of The Brazil Times. Why was the door unlocked? Most people, myself included, had the impression that the policy throughout the school corporation was that all doors in our schools except one were locked. Why is that not the case at Northview? Then, there was the fact that came out at the political forum about the new, improved, security installation at Jackson Township being observed with the remote-controlled lock equipped door propped open with a sign asking visitors to report to the office. It does a great deal for our security to have the locks and not use them. Why should we buy these devices or change our buildings when policies are not made or not enforced? It is a waste of money. We must comply with current law, it needs to be researched. We need to anticipate changes to the law that are foreseeable, such as a requirement that, most likely, will come down to be able to evacuate the handicapped from a multi-storied school building without using an elevator. We need to actually define our needs instead of accepting someone's opinion that there is a need. (EXAMPLE: We have a need to replace the Central Office, located in the old Knightsville school building. The building is about, if not over, 100 years old. The Central Office should be ADA compliant and may well be required to be by law. That would be sufficient justification to replace the building. It does not justify expending the 2.8 million dollars to build a new building for the Central Office if we build a new school to house the students of Meridian and Eastside. Doing that, we could repair the structure of Eastside, adapt that to be ADA compliant as an office building for much less than a school would require, and sell the real estate of the Knightsville and Meridian Street properties to recoup, at least, part of the construction costs of the conversion and new school construction. This would also return those properties to the tax rolls.) There are many other questions that must be asked, and answered, before we start any project. Should we re-district? Is the open balcony at North Clay a legal liability? Why are we teaching French IV to one student and Dance to nine, at a cost of over $20,000 in the 07-08 school year, when a fourth of our students cannot earn even our lowest diploma? Should we move our sixth graders out of North Clay and back into the elementary schools? Would that improve our graduation rate? Should we limit our Kindergarten through third-grades and high-school math classes to not more than 18 students as recommended by the Indiana School Boards Association? Should we eliminate instead of replacing the carpet in our schools as recommended ( http://www.aasa.org/files/PDFs/Publicati... ) by the American Association of School Administrators in 2003? There are many more questions that can and should be asked before we leap into a project. Many more people need to be involved. Boiling it down to the bottom line, everything that the school corporation does needs to be justified and show to have an educational return. 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I meant this to be a blog atricle, but it didn't get posts by the Brazil Times. Can't really gripe about that, everyone deserves time off.
Views from the Lion's Lair
By: Leo L. Southworth
Memorial Day
As a former Marine, Memorial Day has a great deal of meaning to me. It is a time for me to reflect upon fallen comrades and comrades-at-arms who will be forever young in my mind. It is a time when I reflect on my father, a deceased veteran of the Army Medical Corps who served during World War II and Korea. It is a time when those in our military are on my mind and in my prayers.
Many of us have plans for family outings, picnics, and other activities. I see it as right and fitting to do those things on Memorial Day. The people who this day commemorates made their sacrifice for those things to go on and gave up enjoying those things for themselves.
I ask that in your busy day that you hug your family for those that can no longer hug theirs. Remember those that have passed the Great Veil and hold precious the freedoms that they preserved for you. Exercise those freedoms as often as you can for those who paid the ultimate price for them and who are now stiff and cold. Take a moment in the rain or sun, in the brightness of the day or in the dark of the night, and say a prayer for those who stand watch over those freedoms today.
SEMPER FI
Will you please post another blog so I can have someone to argue with other than my kids????
unoit - believe me, I've tried a lot of things before I got so bad I applied for disability. One of the greatest burdens to bear is that the pain lessens for a while so you pay it little heed. I have days when I can do almost anything that I've ever done. Then I have days when the legs just don't work or I have so much back pain all I can do is sit, can't even lay down.
But we all have our own problems.
madmom
I missed one of your questions.
I don't know how any construction plan will help your daughters. I do not know your daughters or their needs.
Someone said that students could "deal" with construction. Some can and some cannot. It is just something that we have to face and deal with.
Buildings enclose the education process, keep the students, generally, comfortable, and control the learning environment; but buildings do not teach.
Teachers teach. The more teachers that we can target towards teaching what is required for a diploma, the more diplomas we will earn. That is not to say that, even if we had a 1:1 ratio of teachers to students we would ever achieve a 100% graduation rate. There are far too many variables we have no control over.
As a person involved in education, madmom, you know that parents have the greatest influence on their children's education. Next in line would be the teachers. Frankly, I would like to see more teachers and smaller class sizes, but that goes back to budget which leads to politics.
From your posts and concern, I would venture to say that your daughters will get their education. I would like to see the community come up with a plan that would reduce the number of drop-outs so that your daughters don't have to support them.
We don't know everything that affects our children. I'll bet that one of your daughters has came to you and mentioned an incident that took place in the past that you had no recollection of, but it meant something to her. If it hasn't happened yet.....it will...LOL.
My grandson had a teacher, in Greene County, tell him that he couldn't take a test. Not that he couldn't fill out the test, but that he could never pass a test. He believed it. We didn't find out for years and by that time it was too late. He was labeled and the schools tried to help him, but he had 13 credits at the start of his junior year and was taking freshman, sophomore, and junior classes in one subject. He turned 18 and wanted to drop out. We convinced him to go to the National Guard ChalleNGe Academy and get his GED. I think we have him on a path that will lead him to being a happy productive citizen. I'm praying on that.
Then, there was my son. He had some problems with the Timed Math Excercises in second or third grade. He didn't understand the procedure the first few times. I didn't recall these from when I was in elementary, back in the Dark Ages. (I also learned from my son that I can't print properly because I print in block letters.) I had Mr. Stifler explain the requirements to me and then explained it to my son. His scores jumped the next time out and, shortly thereafter, scores jumped for the whole class. What I told him was that it was a race to get as many right as you could within the time limit. I was told when he entered elementary school that it was non-competative. That is just plain daft as all of life is competative. (I'll wait for the expected comeback on that remark, not expecting it from you, though.....LOL)
We, as parents, have the most to do with our children's future. We are, as citizens with our plans for the schools,hopefully, trying to help other parent's children as well as our own.
Gunslinger - Welcome to the fray. As a joke, you wouldn't happen to be Rod Serling, would you? Your post, although it is pretty close to the reality, read like something from the "Twilight Zone".
But, seriously, I am within my rights as a voter and taxpayer. I am following the law. I am not doing anything alone except, LOL, taking the heat here and trying to inform people of what I've found that, I feel, should sway them to my point of view. I'm trying to put information out there so people can weigh it. I'm trying to give you the full picture, not just what pushes my agenda. I haven't put out a lot of the opposing views, others are doing a fine job of that.
Like I said, welcome to the fray.
Madmom
I couldn't agree more about getting rid of the modulars when we build. They cost us education time by requiring movement time beyond what should be used. They are getting old and were not designed to be used indefinately.
But, when first discussed, much was made about weather and security. Now, in my letter to the editor, I asked what I thought were valid questions that need to be considered and answered concerning legal liabilities. LOL, these were formulated from my readings of publications of several organizations concerned with legal issues or education. I did stand in Meridian Elementary School, point to the floor of the hall, and ask Mrs. Phillips "If the renovation was done and there was a fire right there, how would you get a handicapped student out of the building since you couldn't use the elevator?" That is when I found that they had been carrying a student out for fire drills already. The handicapped would be safer with ramps and a fire slide than with an elevator.
I stood in Eastside and asked what would happen if a vehicle came through the front door as it is only a short way from US 40 with nothing between but three curbs. Sorry, still remembering picking up the pieces in Beruit from the Marine Barracks there. Then, closer to home, there was McVeigh and Oklahoma City. Precautions could be taken, but only if someone thinks about the possibilities. But, when a person stands in the "bully" pulpit and uses fear to push their own private agenda, I have to wonder about their motovation. That applies from the President of the United States down to the lowest elected official.
If you, and the majority of the public, do not share my fears, then the decision is made. I can live with that. I do not demand that you succumb to my fears, even if they are based on my personal history. I really detest it when others seem to demand that I share their fears. LOL, I have enough of my own.
What I have brought up are things that we can do something about and need to decide to do so.
No one in our schools is going to be able to stop an idiot with a gun with the intent to hurt someone unless they take the risk and do it physically. No one on Earth can stop a tornado should one strike one of our buildings. We could only deal with the aftermath in either case and pray that it never happens.
We need to do what we can about what we can without becoming distracted by hype on things we have no control over.
I am sorry for your pain. Being in constant pain takes a toll on ones day!
One thing that really does urk me about our military is that I do not feel they take care of their soldiers medical needs after they have served.
Thank you for answering my question
you could try chiropratic medicine, I have heard it works very well. Also Maurers on the east end of town has natural medicines. I have used natural meds myself with great results.
madmom
Concerning my disability, I have degenerative disc disease affecting 5 vertabra in my spine. This condition can, and generally, does occur in the human body as we age. You may have it yourself. It may or may not produce symptoms.
Mine became apparent while I was in the service although not to a disabling degree. Vibration, such as in armored vehicles and air-craft has proven to be a source of problems.
The VA has a 75% success rate for surgery on this, but I have never met or been contact with anyone who said that they had successful surgery of the spine. Most either lost something the day of surgery or were in worse shape within three years. I've decided to keep what I have until I lose it, then consider surgery to get it back.
I'll put up with the pain, lack or limitation to mobility, and the frustration of not being able to tell someone when or if I can do something as long as I can still walk most of the time.
Jumping out of planes and rappeling down ropes was fun, but I'm paying for it now. LOL, if I knew now what I didn't then, I may have lived my life differently. Such is life.
That puts it into perspective!
ROFLMAO!
I agree with you completely. The community should come up with a plan. But I do have a few questions. Should the entire population of Clay County come and make this plan? Or should we select a committee? Or maybe a board? We could elect officials or trustees to oversee the deal and they could help put together a committe to work out the details of what we really need to do to get this all fixed. That sounds like a plan!! But wait! What if some individual decides this group has not acted in the best interest of the community? I guess he could start a remonstrance and stop it all for a while, or at least hold it up long enough that costs are driven up and we can only do a portion of the work. And then we can get the whole community involved again ... and elect another board .... and ....
PLease do not take offense to the earlier asked question. I just wondered since you often state that you are a disabled veteran if your injuries occured while in the service?
I do have the upmost respect for you having served our country. My dad and uncles put their time in as well.
I just hope that my comment did not come across as a slanderous remark.
Leo-This is what you said in a letter the the editor.
What is your plan to limit the school corporation's legal liabilities? If there is a fire in one of our multi-storied buildings and a handicapped student or teacher cannot evacuate because they rode to an upper floor but could not leave by it because of a fire, is the corporation liable? If a student, on antidepressants that cause suicidal tendencies, jumps from the open balcony of North Clay Middle School, is the corporation liable?
This is from your blog today...
There has been a lot of hype and fear-mongering spread about by a few people attempting to promote the two proposed plans and the one that was approved by the school board. Risks have been exaggerated to scare people into worrying about the modular classrooms as security risks or dangerous. People have stated that the students are at risk because of the modulars and having to move between them and the main buildings.
Your letter to the editor sounds like hype and fear mongering. yet when someone else states their reasons for wanting school improvement you call it hype and fear mongering.???
Food for thought
While intelligent people can often simplify the complex, a fool is more likely to complicate the simple.
Author: Gerald W. Grumet
OK, I have read this 2 times and still am at a dead end for how your plan is helping my children.
Security is an issue. I agree, the doors at Northview should be locked. I for one would love to see that in place. You mention liabilities quite often in your postings. What is the liablity for those who sign your petition to stop the secuirty measures? Will they indeed have blood on their hands if GOD FORBID there is an incident in a school? SHAME ON THEM
The modulars just need to go. They are not in the best interest of any student.
I am sure I have many more things to ask but for now let me leave you with one last burning question, were you disbaled while a verteran or after you left the service?
And, I do think you for serving our country. It is a noble call to duty