I'm Fed Up with Senator Lugar!!!!!

Karen:

I will look at the sites you mention but Sen. Lugar has done a lot of good for this state and country and worked on many bipartisan committees. I'm having a hard time discounting all his history from that one statement.

Okay. First TMZ is a gossip/celebrity web site. Many times they take partial clips out of context. Not much better than National Inquirer IMHO.

I would have to ask WHEN this clip was filmed and When the raise was voted upon AND how did Lugar vote? If this was something that was done last term before the economic melt down and/or what was the vote count?

I am not denying what was said but I think that this site is notorious for not telling the rest of the story...just for sole purpose of getting a rise out of people.

Sen. Lugar is much more than this one clip. Remember we are all a mixture of the good and bad things we do. I would be writing to senators about not restricting how the bale out funds are being used by banks instead of about their last raise until we get the rest of the facts around this clip.

Luger did not vote for a pay raise. Congress gets a pay raise automatically every year, the only way to stop it is to introduce a bill in congress. I will say he did nothing to stop it.

You might try to do a little research before making a descision such as you have. I'm a democrat, but do like all the things Senator Lugar has done for Indiana.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lug...

Everyone can arrive at their own opinion and stick with it, the senate is looking to pass an economic stimulus package that contains 375 billion for sexualy transmitted disease education and 600 billion for federal employees to get new cars there's no stimulus, other than for the auto industry, its driving up our debt and welcoming inflation to finish us off

Karen: Welcome. Glad to have you on our side. Lugar is at best a moderate, and worse a Liberal. I have felt this way about Lugar for quite a while. He wants to shut down the coal industry in Indiana via his support of Kyoto. He believes that Carbon Dioxide is a polutant. He probably contributes money to Al Gore.

The first thing that should have told you that you are on the right track is you have two professed liberals profess their love for Lugar. Then the icing on the cake (main liberal tactic) is to chastize you for your behavior as a "christian". I didn't see one time in your post that you even mention "christian". For all I know, you maybe an agnostic.

So again, if the liberals are attacking you personally, welcome to my side. Now watch them attack me.

It is okay to be a Christian and still get angry (i.e. look up righteous anger). I get angry when one takes from another merely because they can. I am aware that my right may be wrong to another. However, "I will not go quietly into that good night" because one or two people disagree with me.

I don't know about you all, but I ENJOY having friends with differing views for that is how we continue to learn in life. Core beliefs are what they are to us all, but let us not forget that there are spine issues and then there are rib issues. The spine issue is our officials are ELECTED and WORK for us. However, more and more increasing fact is proving that is no longer the direction our great country is moving in.

Many people have alot of very ugly things to say everyday on the comments about our local officials. I often wonder when the last time these same people have picked a phone, or sent an email requesting to speak with these officials and ask questions. I decided too and have been warmly greeted and treated with nothing but respect.

Hmmmm...you think Senator Lugar will meet with me? I would hedge a pretty big bet in the NO direction. After all who am I to him? Apparently, a NON ESSENTIAL. For if I were essential in any way, this man would be the one taking the ridicule on the hill as he stands proudly with conviction and says "Enough is enough!". He would also passionately cry out when he sees things that hurt our country happening. After all, that bailout has helped so much right? Why jobs are jumping into people's laps and no one is scared, hungry or going homeless because of that stimulus!

Pfffttt!! As much as I deplore the action of lieing when done to me by a peer, friend or family member why then would I enjoy it from an elected official?

Perhaps to some peace comes by lies, not to me. I would rather be angry righteously then happy for all the wrong reasons.

Thanks again for your comments and thanks for the education you are all so graciously providing me.

KM.

Tell us how you really feel?!?! I understand, just trying to put a smile on your face and not get on your bad side...lol

KM,

Oh just the whole "turn the other cheek", "judge not lest ye be judged" and "do unto others" quotes (all of which I am breaking...call me hypocrite) come to mind.

I do agree with your comments on having spirited discussions on opposing view points. Having the ability to do that is one of the many things that make the USA the best place in the world to live (despite all that is wrong here...we are definitely not an Eden).

I would say you are 99.9999999% correct is saying Lugar would not meet with you....I hesitate in saying absolutes. Inaccessibility of our elected officials is another reason for term limits.

Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, etc.....I can live with any of them because opposing view points are needed for checks and balances and they can always be voted out of office. I just think we need to stay clear of Socialist.

Still would be interested in your sources.

I am also sorry that it has been implied that Liberals aren't Christians!

"Lugar the Lowlife"

That is mature..I'm going to have a hard time taking anything you say from here on out serious after reading some of these immature and illiterate comments about an excellent senator that has done a lot for our state.

Also, lets learn how to get sources. I would only trust scholarly sources. That does not include a user updated database such as wikipedia.

Have You all not noticed that We the People are the employer... and elected officials are our employees. as an employer let me tell you that you have some real good employees and then you have some real crooks, they lie, cheat and steal from you in many ways that in a period of a year it can add up to what you would have paid 2-3 more people.

I am for term limits as you get fresh ideas not warmed up leftovers.

I wish that I had read this blog before I commented on the blog about deleting comments. Even tho I am inclined to agree with most of your rantings about Lugar, I think some of what you wrote would have been cause to have an entire comment section deleted. If you had called the mayor of Brazil something along the lines of Bradshaw the B(fill in the blank with any B word you choose) in comparison to Lugar the Lowlife, the entire blog would have disappeared faster than you could type your own name. I guess it just depends on what public official you are criticizing (sp?) and who is being the critic.

I agree with you 100% on the stimulus plan....that will only stimulate the USA into a depression. I know Lugar is the hometown target, but have you looked into Daschel, Rengel, and Geitner (sorry about the spelling)?

KM,

I am so, so, so strongly against socialized healthcare. That is as nice as i can say it and still be allowed to stay on this site. One always hears about how well Canada's health care is....they just forget to mention the 50% income tax that finances their healthcare system or the months it takes for referral to specialist if they are needed. As one who works 50 hours plus a week (less my lunch time to read this site) in order to provide for my family without looking for handouts, i can not afford to give any more. I truly have problems for handouts and free rides...it might be an antiquated male ego thing, but I prefer to think it is just pride of taking care of oneself. I wish i were smart enough to make that call.

P.S....glad to see Dashel to withdraw from his cabinet nomination. Now we just need to get Rangel to step down or at least agree to visit the idea of rewriting the tax code.