Wooo Hooo!!!

Posted Wednesday, May 4, 2011, at 8:02 AM
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  • While I agree with you and the majority of the world's population that Bin Laden being dead is perhaps one of the finer things that has occurred of late, I do not take joy or the celebratory spirit that comes along with this occasion. Nor am I complaining about the details. Quite frankly I can't seem to get enough of the details regarding this monumentous situation. I can say this without any regret, I am relieved that we didn't capture him alive!

    Yes, Bin Laden is dead. We have committed ourselves to a far greater depth of perverse pleasure in the eyes of the world by turning this into a "holiday" atmosphere. Is this what we want the world to refer to us as? Celebratory pigs just as Al Qaeda was celebrating in the streets when all those poor people were dying in the World Trade Centers, The Pentagon, or a field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania? That is what I remember very vividly that day...bad people rejoicing that they killed us. I am by no means calling us bad people; I am just saying that they were taking particular pride in the fact that they had created such death and destruction on American soil.

    By all means, be glad that Bin Laden is dead. I thank my God everyday that I live in a nation that holds freedom dear. I ask my God to bless all of our servicemen and women who risk it all to make our Nation what she is, the land of the free and the home of the brave but I will not "celebrate" Bin Laden's death. It gives him too much power in death as he had in life. This does not mean that I an un-American....quite the contrary. I have served our country in the Armed Forces and I would be in the thick of it now but I have to do other things in my life; I am just as American as my neighbors, friends, and family. I just feel that we should turn the celebrating down a few notches and act like respectable citizens.

    God bless the families whom this gives the necessary closure to and may God continue to bless each and every one of us as we enjoy the visions that our fore-fathers had for this great nation. To our Servicemen and women, keep doing what you're doing, we are proud of everything you do. May God watch over you and your families!

    -- Posted by Proud of My Country on Wed, May 4, 2011, at 10:41 AM
  • All I can say is real Christian attitude Charles. You have lowered yourself to a new level. I hope that the rest of us aren't painted with the same stereotypical brush as ANY time a person has to take it out of God's hands to kill another is a sad day.

    Lock 'em up and throw away the key? Sure but your response is no better than those who support Taliban and then cheer when people are killed.

    I am rather surprised that the paper printed your blog.

    -- Posted by Jenny Moore on Wed, May 4, 2011, at 7:13 PM
  • To everything there is a season, and

    a time to every purpose under the heavens:

    A time to be born, and a time to die;

    a time to plant and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

    A time to kill, and a time to heal;

    A time to break down, and a time to build up

    A time to weep, and a time to laugh;

    A time to mourn, and a time to dance

    ( . . . .)

    A time to love, and a time to hate;

    A time for war, and a time for peace.

    Ecclesiastes 3:1-8

    Suppose you that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, No; but rather division.

    Luke 12:51

    Jesus himself taught us that there are times when we must turn our other cheek so that our enemy may strike it and that there is a time to grab cords and drive the profane as though by whips.

    When the Bismark was sunk, no doubt drowning "innocent" German sailors, was it wrong to be glad? When the Yamamoto was sunk, no doubt drowning "innocent" Japanese sailors, was it wrong to be glad? When our enemies were brought to their knees and surrendered unconditionally, wasn't there euphoric rejoicing? When General "Black Jack" Pershing executed Moslem terrorists in the Philippines, buried their bodies with slaughtered pigs, and sent the lone survivor back to tell what he saw, didn't Moslem terrorism in the Philippines end for 50 years?

    In the Catholic Church, isn't the defeat of the Moslems at the Battle of Lepanto a HOLY DAY OF OBLIGATION?

    We can pretend to be what we are not. However, what passes as Christianity these days is perceived as weakness by our enemies and invites continued attacks. This Christian American WILL NOT go quietly into the night!

    -- Posted by Charles Hear on Thu, May 5, 2011, at 7:24 AM
  • I think this is much different...no, miles different. This was not an innocent victim, such as those 3000 that died at the WTC, Pentagon, and Shanksville PA. To see some people in the middle east of (radical) muslim persuasion cheer over their deaths, is far from people here being happy about the death of the man responsible for all those innocent people being slaughtered.

    Bin Laden was put down instantly. Think how long some of those people at the WTC had to suffer. Remember some even chose to jump from 100 stories up to avoid an even worse death. Remember?

    Or how about those people that took over their hi-jacked airplane, knowing in doing so they were going to be flying that plane directly into the earth? Remember?

    President Obama deserves credit for his leadership on this. The special forces and intelligence units that tracked and got him deserve even more.

    While I was not out on the streets celebrating the death of this monster, I fully understand those who want to.

    Again, this wasn't an innocent human being here, or even one that killed another man or two. He was a mass-murderer on an unimaginable scale. He spewed hatred while claiming to being doing his god's work. And even though he is gone, what he has spawned will be with us for who knows how long? He got off far better than he deserved.

    Nice blog Charles.

    -- Posted by ClayCountyGuy on Thu, May 5, 2011, at 7:45 AM
  • Guys, I think the real difference between Al Qaeda celebrating and what was seen here is simple. They plotted an attack on civilians just doing their work. They were very "successful" when blindsiding unarmed, uninvolved, non-combatants. They celebrated that "victory" in their streets with chants of "Death to America." We, by contrast, hunted down the person who admitted responsibilty for the act and killed him. We removed the life of a man who knew it was coming sometime (which is why he was so heavily gaurded). He was armed, involved and the head of the terrorist threat against us. We celebrated this victory with chants of "USA, USA." Furthermore, they celebrated out of pride in their religion and the freedom it gives them to do such things. We celebrated out of pride in our country and the freedom that has been defended. No, I don't think ours is the same as their celebration - at all.

    -- Posted by brazilian on Thu, May 5, 2011, at 7:59 AM
  • That was nicely put brazilian! I like that thought process. Thank you for sharing.

    -- Posted by Proud of My Country on Thu, May 5, 2011, at 10:47 AM
  • Jenny, I understand that you are against violence and I'm sure that this goes against your sensibilities. However, The decision made to end OBL's life was the correct one. There would be no reform, no redemption for him. Were he to be brought back alive, the media circus would be immense. Not to mention the possible attempts to free him, then after the trial he would become a martyr to their cause. The backlash from his death will be far less than if we had a living (I won't call someone who murders innocent civilians a man) thing to parade in front of the world.

    Things Charles eludes to in his blog and reply are quite correct. This sends a clear message to those who would wish to do us harm, if you commit such an act we will find you and bring you to justice.

    While peaceful solutions are always preferable, they are not always possible. Some things you must fight for and he paid a far cheaper price than the countless thousands he killed.

    Yes, there are celebrations if you wish to call it that. I don't think that it makes anyone less christian to be glad that someone as despicable and vile as OBL was brought to justice.

    Everyone is entitled to their views, I've spent my life defending your right to do so. So on this issue Jenny we must agree to disagree. While I don't agree with many of the views of our current president, I do feel that he made a good decision in ordering the operation.

    God Bless the United States of America.

    -- Posted by Localguy1972 on Fri, May 6, 2011, at 10:51 PM
  • Dear Jenny,

    Are you even from America??? Turn YOUR cheek, and stop leaving comments on Charles's blog. All you ever do on here is tell people that they are wrong in their thinking. We get it. You are better then everybody.

    This world is a slightly better place.

    Great blog Charles.

    -- Posted by sandman442 on Mon, May 9, 2011, at 8:56 AM
  • sandman442:

    I'm a proud American but a Christian first and foremost..though at times recently I admit it's a little hard to be associated with some of them in fear of being painted with the same fundementalist brush so to speak.

    If I thought I were better than everyone else I would not feel the need to go to church for spiritual nourishment and frequent reminders of what my path should be.

    BUT I am also taught in that church that it is just as wrong to let others do wrong to another with no complaint as to do it oneself.

    For me, to let the comments stand with no comment against them would be the same as condoning them.

    I can turn the other cheek when one attacks me as you are here, but that is where it stops.

    Localguy1972 disagreed with some of my comments as well, though I did not reply negatively about the actual killing of Bin Laden. It may very well have been necessary. The killing itself was a clear message. It is the celebratory sing song that I found offensive and not in line with a Christian "community".

    Many spout that they think our society should be more visibly Christian and have religious monuments associated with government buildings. I say that those would only prove the point that the majority has the power to promote their own brand of religion while in reality to truly promote Christianity, it would be every individual's actions that would really send the message to those of other faiths.

    This cheering of another's death is not really a Christian attribute no matter what the individual calls him or herself.

    Maybe that is just something "good" Christian people just don't want to hear....Don't take my word for it [lol]. Discuss it with your pastor and see what he/she says.

    Have a good day.

    -- Posted by Jenny Moore on Tue, May 10, 2011, at 12:16 PM
  • I just love how you can rile up a debate on your blogs Charles! Keep the greatness going!

    -- Posted by karenmeister on Wed, May 11, 2011, at 3:21 PM
  • Jenny,

    Have to agree with sandman442 and brazilian.

    The way we celebrated is totally different from the way we celebrate and doesn't make us like them.

    For Ten Years our soldiers have fought for one thing and one thing only. To take down OBL and the Taliban and those who condone his actions.

    For many years OBL has conducted in killing innocent civilians in the US and across the World.

    So WOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!! The wicked witch is dead.

    -- Posted by Remos03 on Wed, May 11, 2011, at 8:13 PM
  • Stopping him [and yes even to the point of having to kill him] is justice. Cheering his death to the point of taunting his supporters is revenge.

    There is a difference. I was reminded of this listening to the radio this morning as news of one of the last Nazis who worked in a Death camp in Europe was just convicted in Germany.

    Justice is portrayed as blind to both the victim and the perpetrator so each will be treated the same. She carries a scale in attempt to weigh out the justice evenly and she carries a sword to carry out punishment quickly and cleanly.

    Sometimes it's hard to differentiate justice from revenge.

    The court in Germany pronounced this 91 yr old Nazi guilty and he spent one night in jail and then let free while appeals proceed. Justice was served so he had to face the families of his accusers but humanity prevailed as he is an old man at the end of his life.

    We must remember to retain our humanity when wielding the sword of justice. I believe the Seals did that in BinLaden's case. Now so must we.

    -- Posted by Jenny Moore on Thu, May 12, 2011, at 4:23 PM
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