Strange Politics

Posted Monday, August 6, 2012, at 8:45 AM
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  • They support "gay marriage", and they support abortion. Leave them alone, and they will become extinct. No big deal.

    -- Posted by Conservative Dad on Tue, Aug 7, 2012, at 9:02 PM
  • Dear Sir -

    Thank you for the opinion piece. Unfortunately/as usual you completely misrepresent the situation in Tennessee, but worse you try to pass it off as a symptom of deep illness in the Democratic party, whose party leaders won't have any one but Nancy Pelosi reincarnated added to their ranks. "Woe unto reasonable people from Middle America!!" This is crass nonsense deduced from a crude misrepresentation. You utterly fail to mention that Mark Clayton is *not* a run of the mill democrat, despite your best efforts at spinning him that way. Nor are Democrats obsessed with ideological purity. In three brief points,

    1) Clayton is easily a fringe figure, someone whose beliefs span talk about the New World Order, an alleged NAFTA superhighway, and FEMA prison camps. Almost secondary, after all that idiocy, is his association with Public Advocates USA, identified by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a bonified Hate Group, that has viciously fought against "the gay agenda" as a whole. He's not just wacko and "anti-gay marriage," a less-and-less common but still respectable position among many Democrats - he's wacko and "anti-gay people", which is *not* a civil position to take in today's society. (Unless you're a homophobe, and you should know the research on the tendencies those folks often have privately..) Clayton's election appears to be an Alvin Greene type situation - he did no campaigning at all, and folks voting for him had no idea who he was, but he was the first name on the ballot and somehow got the votes to win. Clayton is not representative of political views among folks from Tennessee, so the party wants him out, even if they haven't had a democrat in that district for 20 years or so.

    2) That said, Democrats are absolutely less obsessed with ideology than republicans are - note, for instance, the Americans for Tax Reform pledge against raising *any* taxes, including on cigarettes, gas-guzzlers, etc etc that basically every Republican in Congress has signed off on. Taking all options for revenue-raising off the table is no way to govern, but then again these are not Eisenhower's Republicans: they're ideologically charged obstructionists bent on keeping an unrealistic promise. On the other hand, SW Indiana has had its fair share of Blue Dog Democrats, representative of quite a bit of diversity in the Democratic party - Brad Ellsworth was definitely pro-guns, and *not* prochoice or pro gay marriage, but he was not run out of the Democratic party. He was just voted out of office by republicans in District 8.

    3) At the same time, Conservative Dad, opposition to/support for gay marriage and abortion tend not to run along political lines - instead, they run along generational ones. So really, we're waiting on y'all to go extinct. Sorry, but all polling trends on this issue over the last 20 years do not support you. So go ahead Conservative Dad, eat some more Chick-fil A. I'm sure its really good for your heart. ;-]


    -- Posted by NorvalJrJr on Fri, Aug 10, 2012, at 4:59 PM
  • Given recent events, possibly, just maybe, the Southern Poverty Law Center is the real hate group.


    -- Posted by Charles Hear on Sun, Aug 19, 2012, at 2:44 PM
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