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Providing a chance to respond

Posted Monday, December 15, 2008, at 5:43 PM

For a reason unknown to myself, comments are not allowed under the opinion section of our web site.

Given the interest of my article, which appeared in Monday's paper, and how the topic of my "Mouth From the South" column correlates with the story, I have decided to post that column as my blog entry this week to allow our readers the opportunity to put in their two cents and comment on my thoughts.

Also, at the end of this blog entry, I am adding the sidebar which accompanied the article in the newspaper.

Asking too much of the taxpayer

Mouth from the South, By Jason Jacobs, Times Staff Reporter

What are we to do?

Average, everyday Americans are scrounging for every penny they can earn to pay for their basic needs, yet we are being asked for what we don't have in order to "bail out" major corporations that put themselves (and this country) on the verge of economic peril.

Already placed on the hook for billions of dollars for financial agencies, taxpayers are at the mercy of ongoing discussions for more of their money to be used to bailout the "Big Three" of the automotive industry.

How is this being justified?

And look at how our money is being put to good use.

Only a week after the bailout passed AIG executives took a $444,000 trip to California for spa treatments and banquets. Then, in early November, it was reported AIG took another lavish trip to a resort in Phoenix, for a "scant" $343,000, days before wanting to renegotiate for another $40 billion in bailout cash.

Not only that, this past Tuesday, AIG announced they were going to offer retention packages to 38 executives ranging from $92,500 to $4 million for those already earning between $160,000 and $1 million annually.

Please explain to me why we, as Americans, are funding these extravagant perks to individuals who could obviously contribute their own salaries and most likely bail themselves out.

Instead, these corporations are leaning on the average taxpayer, whose status is equivalent to someone standing on broken legs, and expecting us not to fall flat on our faces.

This past week, I spoke to two men who I believe are pushing for change in the only way they can (see the front page).

Their "silent protests" should be an inspiration to the rest of us to pay attention and speak up to those at the highest levels and inform them we can't take anymore.

More than 230 years ago, this country rebelled against tyranny and those involved are viewed as heroes.

Today, a man decides to turn his flag upside down as a scream of the country being in dire distress, yet is criticized for being "unpatriotic."

In all actuality, these men are exemplifying what a patriot is.

They both love their country and see that what is going on is not right. Rather than be silent and watch the madness unfold before their eyes, they are taking a stand and saying, "We have had enough."

Many of the major changes on this planet have begun with tiny actions such as transcribing a Declaration of Independence or refusing to give up a seat on a bus.

Maybe the tiny action of flying a flag upside down and declaring that our lives and/or property are being threatened will be the start of an economic revolution that could save this country and all the hard-working, blue-collar Americans struggling from day to day.


What violates the flag code?

According to the United States Flag Code, displaying the flag with the union (stars) down as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property is not a violation. However, these are a few examples of what is a violation:

* Displaying the flag horizontally as has been done prior to football games when the Flag is spread across the field,

* Printing or impressing an image of the flag on paper napkins or other items designated to be used and discarded,

* Flying a foreign or state flag above the United States Flag on the same flagpole (example: The Mexican Flag was flown above the United States Flag in Reno, Nev., Oct. 2, 2007),

* Displaying a corporate flag or banner on the same flagpole as the United States Flag, and

* Draping the flag over the hood, top, sides or back of a vehicle, railroad train or boat. When displayed on a motorcar, the staff shall be firmly fixed to the chassis or clamped to the right fender.

While there are violations of the flag code, there are no provisions for enforcement and there is nothing law enforcement can do when the flag code is broken.

For more information about the flag code, visit www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagcode.htm or www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html.


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UNOIT and Sassypants - your points are well taken and thank you for the chuckles.

-- Posted by madman36 on Thu, Dec 18, 2008, at 1:35 PM

OK... case at point... Just made typos... error on my part

SORRY!!!! :>

-- Posted by sassypants on Thu, Dec 18, 2008, at 12:56 PM

Having had several people in my family that proudly served their country, I pray that I never show disprect towards any veteran. However, if we are going to be upset about someone flying their flag upside down at their house and we all want to scream protocol, then I feel there should be the same thing done towards all violations of flag flying. If it is good for one soldier, and I feel it is, then it should be done for all soldiers.

I meant no disprespect not was I trying to be on a high horse or a pulpit. Actually the thought of me being in a pulpit shouldmake veryone quake in their boots~!

And as for being wrong and admitting it... whenever I experience that for the first time, I will post and let you know~~~~ ROFL

-- Posted by sassypants on Thu, Dec 18, 2008, at 12:55 PM

Flying the flag at half staff in honor of the deceased (Mr. Walden) is not, in my opinion, "willy nilly."

My intention was not to be disrepectful towards Sassypants. The inability to show emotion by changes in vocal tones and body language is the main downfall to this form of communication. I may have misunderstood her.

Unoit - i guess I was. But then again, I have never been wrong...not that I will ever admit. ;-)

-- Posted by madman36 on Thu, Dec 18, 2008, at 11:53 AM

flying an AMERICAN flag upside down is not necessarily meant as political protest. the practice has it origin in military distress singal 0f dire distress in this manner is "a singal of dire distress in instance of extremedanger to life or property, it has been used by extension to make a statement about distress in civi,political. upside down flying was rule constitutional in spencer vs washington in 1974 supreme court ruling. people check your facts and think about are congress actions are you please?

-- Posted by rjhos on Thu, Dec 18, 2008, at 9:11 AM

Thank you Leo. I guess they have chosen not to give us an answer!

-- Posted by sassypants on Thu, Dec 18, 2008, at 8:22 AM

I guess what is needed is a definition of "distress". Without looking it up in a dictionary, what immediately comes to my mind is an impending desperate situaion, or one that threatens the safety of a person.

What my view of distress is, does not coincide with what Mr. James' is apparently. I do not agree with the way that Mr. James is displaying his flag for this situation. He certainly is entitled to his views, and should be allowed to voice or show displeasure in any repsectable manner he chooses. I do not think that the code that applies to flying his flag upside-down applies to this case.

I know Rick, and though I don't pal around with him, I do consider us to be friends. But if we are in a discussion here about proper flag ettiquette only, then it is my personal view that this is a violation of it.

-- Posted by ClayCountyGuy on Thu, Dec 18, 2008, at 6:30 AM

Madman36, I'd be interested in your response to sassypants' questions. What did you find in her comments that was disrespectful or "uppity"?

She asked some questions she didn't have answers for, but I just don't see the justification for you to "flame" her.

-- Posted by FlyinLion on Thu, Dec 18, 2008, at 12:34 AM

madman

Excuse me? What brought that on? How am I talking down orbeing disrespectful?

-- Posted by sassypants on Wed, Dec 17, 2008, at 1:36 PM

Sassypants you ARE confused and a bit disrespectful, if not a bit condescending from up high on your pulpit.

-- Posted by madman36 on Wed, Dec 17, 2008, at 11:28 AM

Sassypants you ARE confused and a bit disrespectful, if not a bit condescending from up high on your pulpit.

-- Posted by madman36 on Wed, Dec 17, 2008, at 11:28 AM

Mother Teresa would be ashamed of us!

-- Posted by sassypants on Wed, Dec 17, 2008, at 8:48 AM

Cy: Well stated. One person's actions CAN inspired others to act.

-- Posted by Jenny Moore on Wed, Dec 17, 2008, at 6:34 AM

The website at the US Dept.. of Veterans Affairs states the following:

An easy way to remember when to fly the United States flag at half-staff is to consider when the whole nation is in mourning. These periods of mourning are proclaimed either by the president of the United States, for national remembrance, or the governor of a state or territory, for local remembrance, in the event of a death of a member or former member of the federal, state or territorial government or judiciary. The heads of departments and agencies of the federal government may also order that the flag be flown at half-staff on buildings, grounds and naval vessels under their jurisdiction.

Our community recently lost a wonderful veteran and man who provided a great service to local veterans, Veterans Officer Les Walden. Maybe the flags are lowered in respect for him.

As for what these men have chosen to do in defiance of the craziness going on right now in our country.

I guess each of us has to look at ourselves for a minute in the mirror and ask the following question:

Am I making an effort to protest and fight back the unjust way our tax dollars are being used, or am I letting myself remain stagnant and do nothing while my neighbors and my country get run over by madmen throwing money from our ever diminishing wallet at large corporations.

My God, there are people, who for whatever reasons, are starving in this country. Mother Teresa pointed it out as shameful and I think it is too.

As long as these men are not burning the flag, I'm not offended by their actions or their convictions. At least they are doing something in the form of a physical and dramatic protest.

One person's actions can change the world.

I don't know if these men will do that, but I sure hope so!

-- Posted by Cy on Tue, Dec 16, 2008, at 2:36 PM

Then what is the big stink about??? I do not understand. If there are no enforcements then we can do as we wish. I am suprised that there have not been laws enacted about this. Why have codes if nothing can be done? I am confused.

-- Posted by sassypants on Tue, Dec 16, 2008, at 1:57 PM

Sassypants, as there are no enforcement provisions in the US Code, you have it about right.

-- Posted by FlyinLion on Tue, Dec 16, 2008, at 1:36 PM

So, you can just willy nilly fly the flag at half staff if you want???

-- Posted by sassypants on Tue, Dec 16, 2008, at 1:09 PM

First, I do believe that the flag at the courthouse is being flown at half-mast for our deceased Veteran's Service Officer, Les Walden.

Second, flying the National Colors upside down is a distress signal, it is supposed to attract your attention. How would one attract attention with no other means or when no one responds to other signals? How do we know that we need to stand together if we do not notice the distressing situation? It is rather distressing when people go to the government for money and then spend it foolishly.

I do believe that Mr. James got his message out.

-- Posted by FlyinLion on Tue, Dec 16, 2008, at 11:56 AM

I have been wondering why myself? If people are SO upset about this flag, why not over the courthouse being flown at half staff?????

-- Posted by sassypants on Tue, Dec 16, 2008, at 10:47 AM

Very well stated. I support the many freedoms we have in this country. Silent, non violent protest have changed history the same as the bloody battles.

I am sickened by what I see my country turning into. I feel like I am in Rome and preparing for the fall. My family members did not fight in many wars to see us self destruct and turn into a house divided. Greed has taken over.

It is a sad time in our nations history!

-- Posted by sassypants on Tue, Dec 16, 2008, at 7:49 AM


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