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BREAKING NEWS -- Dems pull out of forum

Tuesday, October 23, 2007

The political debate featuring Brazil City mayoral candidates, Republican Jim Sheese, and Democrat Ann Bradshaw, is currently in limbo.

The Brazil Times received a press release Tuesday afternoon from Joe Broyles, Chairman of the Clay County Democrat Party, stating, “The Democrat Party has made the decision not to participate in the political debate that was scheduled for Thursday, Oct. 25, 2007. The reason for this decision is the fact that the Democrat candidates were not extended an invitation until it was read in The Brazil Times.”

Broyles did not return a phone call to The Brazil Times seeking comment.

The Clay County Farm Bureau and Clay County Chamber of Commerce are co-sponsors of the event.

Clay County Farm Bureau President Marshall Nuckolls said he was unaware of the Democrats’ decision to pull out of the debate.

“Nobody sent anything personal to either party,” Nuckolls told The Brazil Times. “My personal feeling is I think it’s wrong.”

Nuckolls said a decision to carry on with Thursday’s forum will be made by the Clay County Farm Bureau Board Tuesday evening at 7:30 p.m.

Several general election candidates expressed their views regarding the Democrats’ decision Tuesday.

“I regret it because I think it will take from the opportunity for people to evaluate both parties,” Republican Clerk-Treasurer Janet Wallace said. “I think that it is unfortunate for voters.”

Wallace’s counterpart, Democrat Karen McQueen, said she was never invited to the debate.

“The first we ever heard of this forum was in the newspaper,” McQueen said. “We’d be more than happy to participate. Just maybe under some different terms.”

Sheese said he still plans on being at the YMCA Thursday, where the debate was scheduled to take place, and added he never received an invitation.

“I guess we’ll carry on,” he said. “As far as I’m concerned, I’ll talk to the people.

“As far as I’m concerned, I’ll be there at 6:30 p.m. I’ll guess we’ll let the people decide.”

Bradshaw said she believed that voters would “understand” why the Democrats pulled out of the forum because members of her party were not notified.

“When I found out about it, I read it in The Brazil Times,” she said. “I was shocked. I heard nothing.”

Republican Chairman Sharon Koehler said, “Quite frankly, I’m not totally surprised.”

“I’m disappointed,” Koehler continued. “This is the first I’ve heard of this. I think the citizens will suffer. I’m just real frustrated.”

Democratic Party Secretary Ed Nevins delivered the press release to The Brazil Times Tuesday. He said he knew that Clay County Prosecutor Lee Reberger, who was scheduled to moderate the event, was notified of the forum two months ago. Still, Nevins said Democratic candidates running for election were not notified, something he said had always taken place before.

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ARe you kidding me??? What I bunch of big babies. So you didn't get a personal invite. Get over yourselves and think about the voters. We are going to be the ones who will decide if your good enough for office.

-- Posted by laree68 on Tue, Oct 23, 2007, at 3:03 PM

Are we going to have to send an invitation for the vote in November as well?

-- Posted by nikki_mathews on Tue, Oct 23, 2007, at 3:33 PM

I don't see what the big deal is. They were at the first one. Why call them babies. That was immature on your part huh? They chose not to go if your questions need attention from the candidates, call them or write them a letter.

I don't personally know any of these candidates, I just felt like posting my two cents.... Free country right? So they are free to decide not to go.

By the way, I had a candidate knock on my door today and spoke to me for quite awhile answering my questions. His name was William Lovett... First time any candidate has EVER personally knocked on my door. I think that is the BEST form of campaigning.

-- Posted by chickenlady on Tue, Oct 23, 2007, at 6:30 PM

This was in the paper over a week ago, I think. And don't they have these debates before every city election? I'm very shocked that the candidates don't want to take this opportunity to meet with their voters and supporters. If they are unprepared for the debate, are they prepared for the job of running our city?

-- Posted by JJBrazil on Tue, Oct 23, 2007, at 6:30 PM

It saddens me to think that the DEMS have to have an Invitation to go speak with the public. well in that case we all should have an Inventation to vote. I fill like they are not ready for the JOB they are running for so their for we need to open are eyes and VOTE for the ones who are ready for the JOB I put a comment on hear about how I felt but it came off within 15 min. I must have spoke the truth. If you don't want to hear the truth well you need to not run for you position. I fill like you are a bunch of babies that need an Inventation to a Birthday party come on DEMS. wake up and act like adults.

-- Posted by coolgals on Tue, Oct 23, 2007, at 7:06 PM

Hello?! This should be a wake up call to the voters of Brazil to carefully weigh their choices and determine what candidates can best represent them and the city. Brazil needs leadership that can face the public in any circumstance, will be present in public meetings, willing to step out of the box to ensure the city gets the best shot at obtaining available resources and wants to see Brazil make the most of what it can be.

-- Posted by Happy2LiveNBrazil on Tue, Oct 23, 2007, at 8:52 PM

Well who has time to attend a debate when the 2 candidates everyone is attacking are too busy trying to manage a city and clean up everyones MISTAKES? Its so funny election time is coming up and everyone wants to call the mayors office and call foul on the clerk tres. office! Ann and Karen ...GREAT JOB on city business..I think the residents see a nice change...AND ITS ABOUT TIME! Good Job ladies!


Precious ;)~

-- Posted by WhyInBrazil on Wed, Oct 24, 2007, at 6:58 PM

@coolgals: comments get deleted, truth or not. The first amendment applies to the editor, not the readers/posters. I've seen many comments deleted, and have had some of mine deleted as well. (That's why I have a printer.)

@Happy2LiveNBrazil: I agree with you. I only wish that everyone would look at each candidate's qualifications and abilities and vote accordingly.

Good luck to all candidates. Will someone from the Times be recording this and putting the debate up as a podcast like you did during the debate? That would be great!

-- Posted by JJBrazil on Wed, Oct 24, 2007, at 11:11 PM

OH my I think Karen paid that person to say that for her because i see no better in Brazil I fill it has gotten worse. I would like to know where all the money goes that is my ?

-- Posted by coolgals on Thu, Oct 25, 2007, at 3:15 AM

First of all I think it should be a rule that individuals typing comments should know how to spell and use proper grammar. Either we have a bunch of kids typing comments on here or illiterate people. Another issue I have is these dumb screen names, I'm sure that none of you would be willing to annouce your real names, because if you did, then people would know that it was the same 5 people posting slanderous comments. Truth of the matter is, it's really sad that the issue we are all discussing is nothing more than a pissing contest. I'm sure that a pissing contest is not going to help anyone run this city. I think I read that the Democrats are having multiple open houses, go out and see them if you have quetions for them. I'm sure that Jim Sheese as well as the rest of the Republican Party is welcome to attend as well.

-- Posted by NotoWallace on Thu, Oct 25, 2007, at 8:52 AM

I am AMAZED at how quickly mt comment was deleted.

This debate should happen and the Dems should attend......with or without an invitation.

-- Posted by Gizmo on Thu, Oct 25, 2007, at 10:25 AM

First of all, I think the Times should make it a requirement that you put your real name to your comments. Everyone should be men and women and stand behind what they have to say instead of hiding behind made up screen names. I find it funny that someone earlier complained about peoples? spelling and not using real names. So NotoWallace is someone?s real name? That is sure a unique name. By the way, you may want to check your spelling of announce and questions as well. I think the democrats not attending the debate is stupid and shows that they are afraid of debating the issues and having to answer questions on the spot without time to prepare. It is much easier to take credit for things that were in place before you took over your position or bash someone on the front page (which the paper should never have put on the front page in the first place) than to have to confront people in person. If you can?t answer questions from the few that would attend the debate, why should voters think you would ever listen to their concerns if you are in office?

-- Posted by Chris Rodgers on Thu, Oct 25, 2007, at 1:09 PM

When you look at politics you see the worst in everyone. Look at the task and the people to perform the task and ask your self can they do it? I do remember at the closing of the primary debate at the YMCA Mr. Schopmeyer made a statement to the candidates that went like this. . . .Good luck to you all and I hope you will all be here in the fall! That is an invitation if you ask me. Do you need it in writing? Even if Mrs. Bradshaw was not in attendance at the primary debate, other hopeful Democrat Mayor candidates were in attendance. And I for one would jump at the chance to speak to the public in a forum that is free of charge as a candidate. The high cost of advertising has forced candidates and businesses to seek other types of advertising. Use your head when you dish others. . . this is a place to vent your comments not a place to bash your opponents and community leaders.

Just above the box were you type your comments on this page there is a line that says "Please be respectful of others and try to stay on topic." and if you dont want to respect others than have the guts to put your name on it!!!

Bradly Wallace

-- Posted by Wallace on Thu, Oct 25, 2007, at 1:26 PM

Okay. First of all, maybe pulling out wasn't a good choice. Their reason for this is a little shady. But, who was the moderator for this event? Lee Reberger was suppose to be the moderator. He is also the Republican Club President. That maybe isn't intended to be biased, but in reality causes some tension. I'm sure Lee would do a great job and would remain neutral, but it just doesn't seem fair to the democrats to have the republican club president as the moderator.

-- Posted by OntheRight08 on Thu, Oct 25, 2007, at 4:32 PM

I also want to add, someone in my family recently had Ann Bradshaw come to her door. She talked with my grandma for a long while about things that were on her mind about the city. After this meeting my grandma was very happy that Ann Bradshaw had came to her door and wanted her input. If this is how the office is going to be ran, I'll vote for Ann Bradshaw!! This is what we need for Brazil.

-- Posted by OntheRight08 on Thu, Oct 25, 2007, at 4:40 PM

I just attended the forum at the YMCA tonight and I was very impressed with Jim Sheese. He answered all the questions honestly, thoughtfully and with compassion. He took the high road on all the issues and I respect him for doing it. Mr. Sheese has the ability to lead and run this city, I put my vote and my trust in him.

-- Posted by 5longyears on Thu, Oct 25, 2007, at 7:25 PM

Do I think the Democrats should have been present at the debate? Yes!! Do I understand why they were not? Yes!! I started hearing about this forum in late July, a date and place were being talked about in late summer and whom do you think was doing the talking? THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!! Mr. Sheese, Mrs. Koehler and Mr. Nuckolls: a mayoral candidate the party chair and one of the strongest members of the republican party south of SR. 46. It is my understanding that the Farm Bureau members that have always organized the forums in the past, were intentionally kept in the dark, until the moderator, and a time and place were secured. Does anyone know when this FOURM defined as â??a designated place for public expressionâ?? became a DEBATE defined as â??a formal method of interactive position representational an argumentâ??? It is obvious to myself that the playing field was slanted. For this debate to be fair BOTH parties needed to be involved in the early planning stages. The party chairpersons should have agreed upon a neutral out of county moderator. The ground rules, such as the amount of time and order of response, by whom and when will questions be accepted, how will the questions to be ask be chose, these few rules would have leveled the field drastically. I believe the issue of not being formally invited was the democratâ??s way of politely saying thanks but no thanks. Why should they have shown up and risk the chance of being made fools of? All the current candidates are hard working members of our community and this so called pissing match should have nothing to do with the way our leaders are chosen. I must say I have been a long time republican and voted many a strait ticket, however this time my ticket will be split as I intend to vote for the best candidate to fill that position.

Feeling somewhat ashamed this has made such a STINK. Lucky

-- Posted by lucky on Fri, Oct 26, 2007, at 8:02 PM

I was approached by the Farm Bureau at the 4-H Fair in July and told that a date and place for the debate/forum (that had been mentioned at the conclusion of the primary debate) had been set for October 25th. In conversation with the Democrat party chair at the fair I mentioned the date to him to be sure he was aware of the date planned by Farm Bureau. The Democrats have been aware of the date since July.

-- Posted by Sharon Koehler on Sat, Oct 27, 2007, at 8:22 PM

Too bad I missed the forum! I do not take the Times for two reasons....cost and often-biased reporting, so I was unaware of a scheduled forum. Some might be thinking that if I read the Times online, then I should have known, right? The truth of the matter is I don't read the Times online on a daily basis. Nonetheless, I seriously doubt a forum would sway my vote because I intend to vote for the candidates I know and trust anyway. It is, however, unfortunate that both parties were not equal partners involved with the planning of the event. Finally, NotoWallace.....the "dumb" screen names are a great way to protect people from retaliation. You see, some people get very upset when others express views unlike their own. Good luck to all candidates running for public office!

-- Posted by Bigpappy on Mon, Oct 29, 2007, at 10:18 PM

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