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Meeting of the minds

Sunday, May 18, 2008

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Clay County Commissioner Charlie Brown (left) looks over a proposal presented by four Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology students Friday regarding the intersection at County Road 950 N and Kennedy's Crossing Road. Along with Brown are (from left) County Highway Superintendent Pete Foster, resident Aron Royer, Rose student Alex Kowatch, commissioner Jack Withers, and students Steven Proctor, Dhruti Patel and Zack Munsell.
* RHIT students offer proposal to county

Aron Royer had grown tired of seeing so many accidents in front of his house.

So he decided to do something about it.

Royer lives at the intersection of County Road 950 N and Kennedy's Crossing Road.

In November, Royer witnessed an accident that took the life of Justin Snow.

"I was sitting there watching NASCAR and I heard a serious explosion," Royer said. "I thought it might have been a house explosion."

Royer immediately called 911 to inform authorities of the accident. But he wasn't finished.

"I told everybody I'm tired of all the accidents," Royer said. "I told my wife I'm not going to quit complaining until we do something about this."

Prior to retiring, Royer was involved in real estate. He remembered a time when students from a university came to Brazil to conduct a beautification study.

Royer said he contacted a friend who put him in touch with Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology professor Kevin Sutterer.

Four RHIT students from the school's Introduction to Design Civil Engineering class who were looking for projects to work on chose the intersection project.

"It's good for them with the training and it's good for the community," Royer said.

On Friday, the four students presented two Clay County Commissioners with their final proposals after 10 weeks of study.

The students, sophomore Alex Kowatch, and freshmen Dhruti Patel, Steven Proctor and Zack Munsell, met with commissioners Jack Withers and Charlie Brown, along with Clay County Highway Superintendent Pete Foster and Royer to discuss their proposals.

They presented the commissioners with three proposals, but one main one that they admitted would cost an estimated $22,000.

"These are just suggestions we've come up with," Patel told the group.

While working on the project, the four students visited the intersection four or five times, they said. They surveyed traffic and the elevation of the intersection.

After 10 weeks, the students proposed the shaving off 4-feet from a bank on the southeast side of the intersection in addition to adding a street light on the northeast corner and moving stop signs on both sides of CR 950 4-feet away from the intersection.

Their proposal would call for a utility pole to be moved.

While conducting their studies, the students said they almost witnessed two accidents.

"I feel like minor improvements are significant improvements here," Proctor said.

Following the presentation, Brown said he was pleased with the results.

"I think it's a fantastic job they've done," Brown said.

Brown added the commissioners would consider the proposal.

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don't just consider it.. pass it

-- Posted by BrazilScholarly on Sun, May 18, 2008, at 11:13 PM

I agree, our children are the majority of the drivers using these roads to get to and from school. Think of it as a major investment in our community's future!

-- Posted by janklmom on Mon, May 19, 2008, at 2:38 AM

To BrazilScholarly: The commissioners cannot just pass anything on the fly. I do agree something should be done about that corner, but let them take it for a vote. I know that it is being considered.

-- Posted by knightsvillegal on Mon, May 19, 2008, at 9:43 AM

Will there be a stink about spending money on this? Seems you talk about trying to make something safe and spending tax dollars and people FREAK!

Hope this is done quickly and without much flack!

-- Posted by madmom61 on Mon, May 19, 2008, at 10:01 AM

Would it not be easier to ban students from driving to school unless they had a afterschool function. That would cut back on the amount of traffic everywhere, not just that intersection.

Your tax dollars are already paying for the school bus, use them (whether the kids think it's cool or not). An added benefit would be less gasoline used, which is better for our enviroment.And better on your wallet @ $3.80 a gallon.

-- Posted by Tom B on Mon, May 19, 2008, at 11:16 AM

Tom B. That is stupid.... Maybe we want to get to school early, or maybe we want to sleep in other than staying 2 hours of our morning on the smelly, crowded bus. They need to deal with the intersection. If everyone in the school rode the buses we would all be standing on them because there wasn't enough room. Some buses already haft to have 3 to a seat. High school students should be aloud to drive its not our fault that the city has pot holes and hills. Why don't you grab a shovel and help if your so worried!

-- Posted by NorthviewGirl on Mon, May 19, 2008, at 8:03 PM

As the Grandparent of the child who was killedat this dangerous intersection, I am pleading with you to go with this proposal. I don't want another family to have to go through what our family has had to endure the last six months, No amount of money can compare to the life of a child

-- Posted by msnow on Mon, May 19, 2008, at 10:02 PM

Shaving 4 feet from southeast corner of intersection. Streetlight on northeast corner. Moving two stop signs. Moving one utulity pole. $22,000.00. Have Sutherland or Knust on the site for 6 hours, the county move the stop signs for free, and Duke take care of the utility pole. I'm guessing this can all be done for $5,000.00 tops. Is it really a surprise that this community is going down the drain? How about having the landowner take some responsibility for this problem?

-- Posted by ucantbserious on Tue, May 20, 2008, at 8:14 AM

As the grandparent of the child who was killed at this dangerous intersection, I am pleading with you to go with this proposal. I don't want another family to have to go through what our family has had to endure the last six months, no amount of money can compare to the life of a child

-- Posted by msnow on Tue, May 20, 2008, at 8:41 AM

As the grandparent of the child who was killed at this dangerous intersection, I am pleading with you to go with this proposal. I don't want another family to have to go through what our family has had to endure the last six months, no amount of money can compare to the life of a child

-- Posted by msnow on Tue, May 20, 2008, at 8:43 AM

I'm glad people are really concerned about this intersection. I am one of the Rose-Hulman students that worked on this project for Mr. Aron Royer.

Replying to 'ucantbeserious', our cost estimate involves moving 8000 cubic feet of dirt, and repaving about 8600 square feet of low quality pavement to the east of the intersection. As we spoke with the county commissioners, the street light may not be installed, and the part of road we suggested to be repaved was already due to be repaved within a few months.

-- Posted by Steven Procter on Tue, May 20, 2008, at 4:17 PM

As the grandparent of the chilld who was killed at this dangerous intersection, I am pleading with you to go with this proposal. I don't want another family to have to go through what our family has had to endure the last 6 months' No amount of money can compare to the life of a child

-- Posted by msnow on Tue, May 20, 2008, at 6:05 PM

As the aunt of Justin Snow I think the idea is a very good one. No one should go through what our family went through. Please help get this passed.

-- Posted by tngirls3 on Tue, May 20, 2008, at 9:08 PM

I am not opposed to the projected alterations at this intersection. The funds required to complete the project are excessive. 8000 cubic feet of dirt is another way of saying 80x100x1. I believe the landowner should be required to have the dirt moved. The larger problem on Kennedys Crossing Road is excessive speed. Stand in front of Lynch's Mum Garden and observe students driving 75 miles per hour every morning and evening and you will understand the second part of the problem. Put the radar gun to use for a month and see how many tickets are written. Mr. Procter, your project is worthy, but it is over priced. That does not mean it should not be completed; however, be mindful of taxpayers expense.

-- Posted by ucantbserious on Wed, May 21, 2008, at 8:12 AM

A large majority of the money is not from moving the hill, but repaving the section of road. This involves removal of the section of old road as well. But, a lot of that cost is gone, due to the county having the road already scheduled for maintenance.

We did give the Commissioners three design options. All of which would greatly improve the project, and not all costing $22000.

-- Posted by Steven Procter on Wed, May 21, 2008, at 10:57 AM

I don't feel that the land owner should pay for any of the cost of this. Is it his fault that the kids drive like maniacs down the road? It is a tragedy what happened at the intersection, but it could have been avoided if excessive speed was not an issue. Can anyone really put a price on a child? If I was the family and someone came to me and said I could bring your child back for $22000 wouldn't we all just say where do I sign? I mean really can you put a price on the life of your child. I know I can't. If it just saves one life then it was worth it.

-- Posted by beautiful978 on Thu, May 22, 2008, at 3:21 PM

I think this would be a wise investment. I used to live out that way and that intersection is very dangerous. If you are going west on so called "beer can alley" and you reach the peak of the hill at the stop sign it is really difficult to see and feel safe about crossing over or even turning. Alot of kids travel that area and the high school is near. If you havent traveled that way you should go and see for yourself how dangerous that intersection could be. It could be me or you, or even our own loved one who is killed or hurt right there.

-- Posted by jjen1212 on Wed, May 28, 2008, at 1:26 AM

Hey, beautiful978 my newphew wasn't driving to fast. He was on his way home and turned onto Kennedy Road and was hit by another driver because he thought it was clear to go. No you can't put a price on a life of a kid. Not all of the speeding cars are the kids. Why not take a poll of how many adults speed on that road too?????? I'm sure you have speeded on a counry road.

-- Posted by tngirls3 on Wed, May 28, 2008, at 10:04 PM


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