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Wednesday, June 4, 2008

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Details are limited, but officials are investigating a pursuit that turned into an accident at the split of United States 40 and County Road 340 shortly before 5:30 p.m. Wednesday. Ivy Jackson Photo.
An apparent high-speed pursuit ended in a single-vehicle accident at the split of United States 40 and County Road 340 Wednesday evening.

Shortly before 5:30 p.m., members of the Clay County Sheriff's Department, Brazil City Police and Fire departments and the Indiana State Police were dispatched to the scene of an accident involving a passenger vehicle that hit at least one utility pole in front of the Coffee Cup Restaurant, 903 West Jackson Street.

According to officials at the scene, the driver and a Clay County Sheriff's Department deputy, both currently unidentified, were traveling westbound during a pursuit, in which the driver was clocked at an approximate speed of 100 mph shortly before losing control of the vehicle.

The driver, whose injuries were not disclosed at the scene, was transported to St. Vincent Clay Hospital.

Officials confirmed stop sticks were deployed in an attempt to stop the speeding vehicle before entering the heavy traffic, which was backed up because traffic lights were not functioning due to the storm, on US 40 inside Brazil city limits.

The reason for the pursuit and further accident details were not released due to the ongoing investigation.


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When are the cops going to STOP the high speed chases??? They end with someone dying. It is not the person they are chasing that dies. 100 miles per hour is ridiculous and not worth it. I sure did not hear any Amber alerts, you know, something that may constitute a high speed chase. Can't wait to find out what silly crime this person comitted for lives to be at stake. How many more innocent people have to die in high speed pursuits before something is done?

-- Posted by yubantode on Wed, Jun 4, 2008, at 6:12 PM

Gee, maybe they just need to get rid of all the laws, then we won't ned to worry about the cops doing their JOB.

-- Posted by fitch30437 on Wed, Jun 4, 2008, at 6:22 PM

Why is it so many want to blame the law enforcement agencies when someone does something against the law? Some blame the police if they enforce the law, and those same people want to blame them when they can't be every place at all times. Theirs is such a thankless job. Who is to say the individual being chased wasn't pumped up on meth, carrying a weapon, and dealing drugs to the neighborhood kids??? Perhaps the complainers would rather the driver be successful at whatever he/she intended to do, even if they ventured on their merry way and ran head on into a car full of their loved ones, killing them all! Then, I'm sure it would be the police's fault for allowing the driver to continue breaking the law!

-- Posted by Bigpappy on Wed, Jun 4, 2008, at 7:04 PM

in response to yubantode, maybe you didnt read the part about stopping the car BEFORE it reached the hundreds of cars that were in town. I know that if my family were in one of those cars, i would be glad that the police had stopped the car before it got to the congested area. Step back into reality!! Keep up the good work, CCSD/BPD/and BFD.

-- Posted by knight55 on Wed, Jun 4, 2008, at 7:05 PM

Book'em Dano!

-- Posted by Gunslinger on Wed, Jun 4, 2008, at 7:23 PM

I agree that blaming this totally on the cops is bad but in some way I think that they needed to have backed off. Due to the conditions weather related it was just to risky, roads were wet, people were around while the chase was going on. If they would've backed off maybe the driver would have slowed down. It would've been safer, if the driver wasn't going to stop for the cops not around people what makes you think that the driver would around people. But instead we had the drivers vehicle and the cops vehicles traveling at high speeds, I feel safer with one vehicle going 100 mph more than I do 3-5. So they weren't making it safer for anyone in this case. If they would of just backed off then maybe the driver of this vehicle wouldn't of lost his life, but instead done serious jail time. It inst like the police couldn't get the license plate number and track the vehicle down.

-- Posted by NorthviewGirl on Wed, Jun 4, 2008, at 8:26 PM

yubantode,

The chases will stop when people stop driving reckless for the thrill of it or in an attempt to out run the police. The deaths are caused by the drivers who are breaking the law, not by the police trying to uphold the law.

The only way I can see getting through to those who choose to do this activity is mandatory prison sentences and permanent loss of driving privileges if you so choose to do this reckless behavior.

No one should get chance after chance to break the law and still drive. Driving is a privilege not a right. No one has the right to risk another life because of a thrill or an attempt to escape the law.

-- Posted by localgal on Wed, Jun 4, 2008, at 8:44 PM

NorthviewGirl,

You are making a lot of assumptions. You can't know what this person was thinking, if they were on drugs, if they were driving their own car, if they would have slowed down.

How can you feel safer with one person flying down the road without any concern for anyone else and no one to stop them? Would it matter to you the number of cars that killed your loved one, or just that someone you loved was killed?

Our police have to make very hard decisions very fast. Put the blame where it belongs... on the speeding, reckless, law-breaking driver.

-- Posted by localgal on Wed, Jun 4, 2008, at 8:58 PM

madmom61......Where is your comment on this? I have a feeling you have one, and I'm curious as to whether or not we agree?????

-- Posted by Bigpappy on Wed, Jun 4, 2008, at 9:15 PM

People are dying and when it comes down to it...it does not matter who is at fault. Someone innocent usually dies from these chases and no prison sentence will bring them back. What if it was your kid who died from a minor traffic violation chase????You'll remember from a few months ago...County Line Road..speeding incident..shouldn't have happened

-- Posted by yubantode on Wed, Jun 4, 2008, at 9:22 PM

That's my point...innocent people are dying from minor traffic violations...that's reality. Someone mentioned that hundreds of people in town are at risk, no kidding! 100mph. I started commenting because of how ridiculous people sound on these message boards. Point proven. Kill some people to chase a car around. You people are so dumb that you are arguing my point back to me.

-- Posted by yubantode on Wed, Jun 4, 2008, at 9:30 PM

Localgal, I'm with you. If people like weren't going at such high rates of speed, it wouldn't matter whether the police should chase them down or not. Why so fast?

Sadly, I know a lot of Northview students and going that fast is not considered dangerous to many of them. Even on slick roads.

-- Posted by Bruther on Wed, Jun 4, 2008, at 9:35 PM

By the way...if the cops are doing their jobs, they would know the car. For goodness sake, there is one little strip in town and everyone who drives a little bit in Brazil, knows everyone's car. This guy would be caught doing something dumb or just getting into their car at the Kroger Plaza or the couple other places to go. Come on now. Look at California's stats on high speed chases.

-- Posted by yubantode on Wed, Jun 4, 2008, at 9:39 PM

The ignorance of some of these comments frustrates me. Just wait some of you may need the Police someday and I bet you won't hesitate to call, then complain because they don't do exactly what you think they should. There are laws set in place and reasons they do what they do. Just wait when they release these names one can bet that the offender will likely be someone's name who has recently been in the news for something else criminal and it is highly likely that they received some plead down sentences that was no more severe than a stern look and a tax payer paid weekend vacation. Get real law enforcement is doing there job, let's look at the prosecutor and the judges. I would like to know what some of you have defined minor going 100 mph does not seem minor. Wake up and take responsibility for the consequences you create.

-- Posted by getit2gether on Wed, Jun 4, 2008, at 10:20 PM

Localgal,

So instead you insist that police keep doing what they're doing, they aren't saving lives when they're doing high speed chases, the best thing they can do is back off, get a license plate number and a good car description, and hope that the driver slows down after he/she relizes nobody is behind them. Do you think Brandee Siples would have died if the police would've just backed off? I don't think so.

-- Posted by NorthviewGirl on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 1:38 AM

People are dying because the lawbreakers continue to think they can outrun the law enforcers.

When have you ever heard of someone getting away from the police when a chase happens. They don't, so why try?

The bad guys here are the law breakers, even if it is a "minor violation", they do not have the right to turn their vehicle into a potential deadly weapon.

-- Posted by ClayCountyGuy on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 6:20 AM

A question just popped into my mind...why are the people that take off and run, running? If it is just for a "minor violation", isn't it much easier to just take the ticket? Of course it is. So in most cases, it isn't minor or they wouldn't run. They probably are running because something else is going to get them in more trouble. Stop making excuses for lawbreakers.

-- Posted by ClayCountyGuy on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 6:26 AM

Ok I have to vent a little.

To Northviewgirl: Unfortunatley Brandee Siples would have still died in a horrible high speed crash. Maybe not that day, but some day and by the hand of the young man that killed her. My understanding is he always drove that way and from somethings I have read here, still does. The car that she was in was already going over 100 mph before the police ever got involved. As a matter of fact, he passed a police car going that fast that started the pursuit. This was a tragic accident, but thank god that the young man driving that car didn't continue on in that manner and kill more people than HE did. There are some things police cannot turn a blind eye on, and driving at 100mph is one of them.

Next: People make comments that police officers can just get the license plate off a car and get the bad guy later. Sorry but it doesn't always work that way. Who know's who is behind the wheel of that car? The owner is not necessarily the driver. When someone is running from the police they have obviously done something that they are running from. If that were a stolen car and had just caused a major accident, robbed a bank, killed someone, etc. and they just got the plate number, do you really think it would be that simple to find them later? The officer pursuing the bad guy did not initiate the pursuit, the bad guy did. And believe me, even if the officer "backs off" the bad guy is not going to slow down, he is just going to continuing trying to get away from whatever it was he was running from in the first place.

-- Posted by Icareaboutbrazil on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 6:37 AM

I live 1/8 of a mile past the Staunton Flashers going towards Brazil on Highway 40. Before this happened, the police and person were flying past my house. I for one, am applauding the police for getting him stopped before he went into town of Brazil. I have no idea when the chase began but I can tell you it was way before the Staunton Flashers. It is the police job to make sure they catch someone doing wrong. How do you even know the kid was already speeding to begin with? You don't know the story. I don't know the story. But I can tell you that he was speeding too fast and thanks to the police for thinking ahead and getting him stopped before he went through town or otherwise more people would have been hurt or killed. Just thank your lucky stars, for those that complain about the police, that you do not have their jobs. You could not pay me a million dollars to do what they do. They put their lives on the lines for us every day.

-- Posted by CricketWoman on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 6:50 AM

yubantobe and northview girl you are both way to uneducated to even be posting a comment on the local news website. We don't even have half of the details in this report, so to just start throwing the police under the bus is out of line. The police have rules they are required to follow when they're engaged in a high-speed pursuit, and I'm sure CCSD followed them. Imagine how the world would be if yubantobe and northview girl were members of our congress, all you would have to do to get away with any crime would be to just run from the police, because they couldn't chase them!

-- Posted by Pro Se on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 7:43 AM

ubantode,

Yes let us look at California, big crime and big troubles, do you want that here? Where does this trouble start and end? With people only thinking of themselves, not respecting our laws, and not getting punished for breaking those laws.

I am tired of hearing that its everyone's right to drive fast and reckless. That everyone does it. Anyone can get in their car any day and choose to drive recklessly and kill somebody. You say we are dumb and arguing your point back to you. I think you only want to see your side of it and justify driving fast at any cost. It's not anyone's right to do so, and if you break the law you deserve to lose your license. For whatever reason this person was speeding there is no justification for it.

The sad truth is that when someone has no respect for the law or safety of others then the only thing to do is put them behind bars. No, doing so won't bring back the person they killed, but maybe they won't kill again. Since they only care about themselves, maybe after they get out they will not want to go back and then they will not repeat such behavior because it will then cost them something.

People die in chases, you're right. But the only person responsible is the driver. Cody was a reckless driver, he gave no regard to safety and laws, and Brandee tragically died. Our laws should be stricter, parents should be stricter. Cars should be taken away from those who are not responsible enough to drive them safely.

I challenge you to think beyond the simple answer of blaming the police. It's easy to find one simple answer to a problem and walk away. But this issue is a growing one. Too many people are dying in car accidents caused by reckless driving habits. We can all start heading to a solution by not driving reckless ourselves, teaching our teens the cost of reckless driving. Parental discipline if they get caught driving badly. What tragedy could have been spared if Cody's car was taken away from him after the first ticket or two?

The last resort is the law responding to an adult who refuses to obey speed limits and stopping them. I would like to see a law passed if you run from police you lose your license permanently. Cody should not be driving. No one should get a second chance to kill. I don't say that hatefully towards Cody. But he made choices. I hate the reality on this young mans life. But he put himself there and unfortunately another family is also paying greatly for that choice.

Education / civic responsibility, parental discipline, or (for adults) responsible driving, law enforcement and real consequences. The only solution. No more excuses.

-- Posted by localgal on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 8:19 AM

NorthviewGirl,

Your whole argument is based on bad assumptions. How can you now how many lives are spared form what didn't happen? How can you know how many people were saved because the police stopped someone?

Getting a license plate does nothing if the car is stolen and I believe you can't arrest someone from just writing down a license plate and finding them later.

Just hoping someone will slow down is just that, hopeful thinking. You can not have any idea what mental state that person was in and you are assuming rational thought is possible. If that were true they never would of run.

On Brandee Siples, Cody was speeding before the police were involved. You are assuming the results of that day could of been changed if only the police let Cody go on doing what he was doing and hope things turned out well. You are assuming that thing could not of been much worse. He could of hit another car and killed even more people, even before the police got involved.

In your world we need no police and should just let people break the law and hope they turn around. Very naive. Don't get me wrong, I wish people were responsible, obeyed the law and cared for others. But that isn't reality.

If Cody was responsible he never would of driven so fast. Police were only dong their job. You are assuming that they didn't save lives that day. You have to put blame were blame belongs and stop making assumptions to justify your point of view.

-- Posted by localgal on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 8:43 AM

I believe that laws are in place for a reason. I am so angry at the lack of ownership shown on these drivers part. Take their driving priveledges away. Make them pay for any and all damages. Hold others, parents, responsible. Make them unisurable. They didn't give a thought to others safety. What should we have to keep paying for their mistakes or actions!

-- Posted by madmom61 on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 10:18 AM

Wow! This has sparked quite a discussion! The fact is, no amount of law or personal responsibility will keep a person like this from hurting themselves and others. It would not have mattered if she was insurable, unisurable, licensed, unlicensed, or whatever. What you have here is truly a case of "temporary insanity". No, not the kind that you can plead and get off scott free. Unfortunately I agree with many on both sides of this argument. However, the cops always get their (wo)man, even if its later. I think they simply need to let them go. ...and then, since they ran, add a mandatory 5 extra years on any sentence for running. Just like cell phones: Don't make it illegal to talk and drive, just add a $2000 fine if you do talk and drive and crash. This lays it all at the doorstep of personal responsibility. You play. You pay (or, in the case of fleeing, you "stay"). I don't like the fact that if you don't chase them, they won't be caught for a while. But, they will get caught (like the Rissler kid her a while back) and they will pay. AND MAYBE NOBODY WILL DIE! As liberal and softsoap as it sounds, let them go. Where are they gonna run? I guess they can "Osama Bin Laden" it for a few years. Might be a pretty good punishment in my view. When they've served that time, then we can catch them, put them in jail (for an extra 5 years).

-- Posted by TheRider on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 10:46 AM

Well .. I have to applaude IcareaboutBrazil and TheRider .. excellent points and well written. (Sorry unoit, I know we are usually on the same page ; )

If this topic hadn't had every point touched upon, I'd offer my (meager) opinion. Just found out that it was a 40yo WOMAN who was the offender .. in more ways than one .. good LAWD, girl! Keep your "waste" to yourself!! Nasty.

I enjoyed reading the opinions. Thanks.

-- Posted by Emmes on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 11:06 AM

I am not making an excuse for lawbreakers, I do not agree with them running in the first place. I have more common sense to know that when a cop is behind a vehicle that is wanting to run away, the vehicle will only move faster, and be more dangerous. I realized that taking license plate numbers wasn't always the solution, but however they can still try and contact the owner and find out who borrowed it if the owner fit the description of the vehicle in pursuit. Or try and locate the stolen vehicle ( if it is stolen ).So don't say I am not educated.... BECAUSE I AM!

Oh and yubantode, this person was not innocent, they were going nearly 100 mph, and running from the police. But I agree that many of the chases end with someone dying.

-- Posted by NorthviewGirl on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 12:40 PM

NorthviewGirl,

I do not think you are uneducated. My point was you are being assumptive on how things worked out and what you think wouldn't have happened.

I applaud you for participating in the conversation. I disagree with your view, but I believe in dialog and sharing of views. We get nowhere living in a vacuum.

There is a time for police to back off. But there is a time to stop someone. If police were not allowed to pursue then everyone would simply run.

I believe there are two issues that are being addressed: reckless driving and fleeing police. One of course can lead to another. We as a community have to be aggressive on both problems, or more lives will be lost. We have become a nation of people who only think of themselves and follow laws only if we feel like it. If that thinking continues then things will only get worse.

-- Posted by localgal on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 12:56 PM

Well said localgal

-- Posted by madmom61 on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 1:13 PM

I'm pleased to see that Brazil/Clay County has some thinkers out there. To some degree I agree with all of you. If they didn't pursue, everyone would run. If they pursue aggressively, often people die. As with most things the answer lies somewhere in the middle. Maybe the pursuit from behind should be much less aggressive (...follow at a distance...) but the pursuit on the front end (...stop sticks, road blocks...) should be SUPER aggressive. Chopper scrambles? (...and I don't mean those motorcycles with the long forks and high handlebars! harhar...) I certainly don't know what the answer is but I do think we should stop the aggressive pursuit. Too many people (innocent bystanders, cops and criminals) end up dying or injured. I would rather rely on the, "You can't outrun Motorola!" concept than trying to bring up the horsepower from the rear.

-- Posted by TheRider on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 1:30 PM

My look on it is, if someone you loved and cared for was running from the cops, wouldn't you want the police to back off? Because if they didn't there is a good chance you would never see your loved ones again. Yes they should be punished, but it is not worth the deaths that these pursuits have been causing.

-- Posted by NorthviewGirl on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 3:53 PM

Hmmmm....lets think about this for a minute, if cops stop chasing law breakers than there would be no reason for cops at all. Why dont we just let everybody do what they what... Im sure that everything would be ok. Now back to reality. People break laws=people go to jail. The cops in this county are some of the best around. I feel that if the law breaker runs from the cops then chase them and take them to jail. why let a speeding vehicle going 100mph + go into town? That is why they tried to lay down stop sticks. Hopefully the courts punish this person to the max. great job Clay Co Deputies keep up the good work.

-- Posted by BigCB20 on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 4:15 PM

I see both sides...if someone breaks the law they need to be punished, but not at the expense of others. As for our police force....I'm sure there is a couple of good honest ones but not all are. When one leans into your car and starts to cussing you out he is very unprofessional...usinfg the "F" word and "hell". I am not the only one who has experienced this kind of treatment so it's very hard to have any respect for our "protectors".

-- Posted by levr.gar on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 6:45 PM

This woman was standing outside naked where all her neighbors could see her, one has a small child. when the police tried to talk with her she slammed the door in there face, went out the side door and got in her vehicle and tried to run the cop over twice. so who do you want to blame now, her neighbors? get a clue people!!! the police did their job, end of story!! now if they hadnt chased her who knows how many people she would have injured!! instead of coming down on the police maybe you should write to these people who think its ok to drive 100mph, they cause the accidents and deaths!! As for someone saying the cops caused Brandee's death you have only one person to look at for that and its cody wright!!

-- Posted by livs_mommy on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 9:57 PM

I have watched people just ignore the sirens of an emergency vehicle. They don't even try to get out of the way, which, in my opinion, is part of the reason some of these chases end badly. I would not want my loved one injured or killed in a high speed chase either. On the other hand, if they were stupid enough to try to outrun the law, then they are just asking for it. Also, the officer(s) don't know what they are going to walk up on when the chase does finally come to an end. Many police officers have been shot, some killed, when they walk up to the vehicle in question. These officers have families that care about them, just the same as the "runner" does, but no one seems to think about that.

-- Posted by th1953 on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 10:34 PM

I've been stopped a couple (or more) times by police officers and have never been treated disrespectfully. Of course, I was nothing less than extremely courteous and respectful to the officer when he approached my car. I'm sure the police do not get treated politely every time they stop a violater!

-- Posted by Bigpappy on Thu, Jun 5, 2008, at 10:52 PM

I did not say the police caused Brandee's death, I said that I don't think that Brandee would have died if the police did back off. It was Cody's fault in every aspect. Like I said earlier if a driver see's a cop behind him and is unwilling to stop they are just going to go faster and be more dangerous than before. The police should have thought of a safer way to stop him.

-- Posted by NorthviewGirl on Fri, Jun 6, 2008, at 2:00 AM

Where's County Road 340? I know where State Road 340 is. Is it close to that?

-- Posted by Dagnabbit on Fri, Jun 6, 2008, at 7:09 AM

Nice to know someone was treated with respect pappy.... as I said not all are bad. I was one of the unfortunate ones who was cursed at WITHOUT CAUSE. I know only too well the dnagers a police officer faces...I have a son who is an officer and I work in law enforcement myself and have never showed disrespect as I was given. Appearently the officer was having a bad day.

-- Posted by levr.gar on Fri, Jun 6, 2008, at 3:24 PM

Having a bad day is no excuse for being unprofessional in any job! People should be reprimanded for such behavior by their superiors.

-- Posted by Bigpappy on Fri, Jun 6, 2008, at 3:49 PM

"This woman was standing outside naked where all her neighbors could see her, one has a small child. when the police tried to talk with her she slammed the door in there face.."

Well, I don't think being naked is bad!! Maybe we need to quite teaching our children that it is a shameful thing. Maybe women & men should quite being ashamed of themselves. Maybe people wouldn't stare or even notice if they just GOT OVER IT!

She went inside. isn't that what the neighbors wanted? so lets just beat on the door until she is too afraid to be in her own home. so lets make this more public.. lets chase her all over town. (this is so stupid.)

sounds like the neighbors just want to get rid of her. isn't there better ways.( that was low.)

did anyone call her?ask her to stay out of view of the children? give her a chance? maybe she didn't know anyone was watching. why were you watching? are u a pervs?

glad i don't live in brazil!! sounds like a bunch of drama. with nothing better to do.

...& ya bad people should go to jail, but were are the limits for the law? it was heresay.. is anyone willing to testify? did the officer see her naked?

ya know.. my brother was a passenger in a car...they police wanted the driver & new someone else was in the car.. they chased them.. they made them wreck.. MY BABY BROTHER IS DEAD!!!...

the driver.. is still a criminal.. he still walks the streets..he still lives in brazil!!

did the law win? well i guess they did, they didn't get in trouble... i will never see my brother grow old, have children, accomplish anything!! just because people around him made decisions that changed.. all of our lives... he wasn't a bad kid. he just loved all people.. for whatever they were.. got him nothing.

So maybe this woman just needs help..to change her life.. not end it or anyones else. what happened to communtiy? U WANT BETTER NEIGHBORS? BE A GOOD ONE 1ST! BE AN EXAMPLE. START A TREND!!

-- Posted by RebelRebel on Sun, Jun 8, 2008, at 11:52 AM

Rebel... personally, I am not into public nudity. I am not sure there are many people that I want to see outside running around nakey. If you are so for it, maybe you should lobby the next county council in the nude and see where you get!!!

-- Posted by madmom61 on Sun, Jun 8, 2008, at 1:38 PM

Rebel- It is obvious that you have a bias against police and an agenda all of your own, therefore you will make any idiotic comment, assertion, or accusation to try to bolster your ignorant position. If really had a brother that was killed in a pursuit, which from all of your previous B.S. I don't buy, then that is a shame. However, the death of your alleged brother is the fault of the criminal and not the police who chased him. Get a clue, your biased statements and crazy assertions serve only one purpose which is to show that you have no credibility. There is one thing we are in agreement on, we are both glad that you don't live in Brazil.

-- Posted by Unsolicited opinion on Sun, Jun 8, 2008, at 3:24 PM

yubantode,

I think the cops should back off so the bad guy can get away! if that is the case the bad guy sppeds up and that is it. how stupid is that? I know , why don't we just send the bank robber the money so there won't be a high speed chase?

-- Posted by Sand mann on Wed, Jun 11, 2008, at 10:58 AM

This comment is directed toward RebelRebel..... First of all you only know half the story, this woman was crazy!!! The police had been to her house several times, this was not the first time she was outside naked yelling that the cia was after her and things about Jesus hates her and everyones gonna die. She knew people could see her because earlier that day she borrowed our hose to fill up her pool. Also this woman had pictures of Jesus and other people in her yard with large stake knives stabbed though them and a whole bunch more like that in the house. I have a seven month old daughter and their are other children in the area so being the concerned parents we are did something about it. now had the situation been different and she was not chased and taken to jail who knows what that woman would have done. now if she needs help she will get it. And yes the cop did see her naked because she got in her car naked.. and i think i can speak for alot of people in brazil we are glad you dont live here cause you sound about as nuts as she is. If you wanna be naked go for it maybe when she gets out yall can hang out ...... the people who break the law cause these accidents, all they had to do is pull over. hate them dont hate the police for doing their job.....and whats more perverted being in your yard and looking up and seein your neighbor naked or a grow woman wanting to be naked in front of small children???? ----- concerned mother, neighbor and citizen livs_mommy

-- Posted by livs_mommy on Sat, Jun 14, 2008, at 12:15 AM

Hi I am the neice of the driver. I am 17 years old. I have read every article in here and the comments, and I would l ike to give my opinion. Most of you probably didn't know the real person. When I say that I mean the real Lynn. (articles called her Karen because thats her first name lynn is her middle and is what she goes by) My aunt Lynn was in the military for longer then I have been born, and retired before she moved to Brazil Indiana. The Lynn you all met was not the real her. I mean it was her physically but not mentally. I don't know exactly what happened to her or what made her snap, but the person mentioned there is not her. My aunt would never run around naked, try to run over a cop, do any of those things listed. My aunt has Skitzophrenia. So when she has her little outbursts or whatever you want to call them they are like her split personality. We have visited her in jail and she has no idea where she is or even who she is. She is not in her right mind. Reading all these comments have really hurt because a lot of you have said some pretty mean things. Yes I'm sure my aunt went crazy but that is because she won't get help. We are trying but she is a strong and stubborn person. It is hard to get her help and no one will truly take the time to give her a proper evaluation. If only we could get someone to take the time, then we could get her help and you would get to meet the real Lynn Augon. The strict but sweet aunt I know and love. So I really would appreciate if you would just try and understand instead of leaving mean comments. I am only in high school, but I understand that people have disorders and diseases like that. I help teach Special Education when I am on break from school and I have seen all kinds of things. You learn to be patient and understanding. If I can do that and I'm only in high school why can't other adults like you try to understand and try to give her a break? I understand you have children to protect and stuff but you also need to understand that she needs help as well. Don't treat her like she is some freak. She is a real person and just isn't in her right mind. If you knew anything about skitzphrenics, its a disease and when they have it and they have their little outburst they have no control and don't even realize what they are doing. So please do me a favor before you leave anymore comments please take what I am saying into thought and also do some research on skitzophrenia so you can understand. This is really hard on my family and me as well. She is my favorite aunt and I love her dearly. So please instead of leaving mean comments leave some words of prayer and keep her in your thoughts. She could use all the prayer she can get. Thanks! May God bless you all to understand and may God bless her and get her some help.

-- Posted by lish on Thu, Jun 19, 2008, at 9:15 PM


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