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City Council eyes ordinances

Monday, October 13, 2008

The Common Council of the City of Brazil discussed a couple of ordinances which could create problems in the future during Friday's special meeting.

The council repealed Paragraph (B) of Subsection 30.004 of the Brazil Code of Ordinances because it conflicted with other sections.

According to the ordinance, "The Clerk-Treasurer is directly responsible for billing and collection of city-owned utilities and shall appoint employees who are responsible for that billing and collection."

"We have a couple of other sections that name the Board of Public Works and Safety as the group responsible for the billing and collection of the utilities," City Attorney Bob Pell said. "It was brought to our attention that this was in the books and by repealing it, we go back to what is the status quo as the Board of Works has always been responsible for the day-to-day operation of the utilities."

Pell also said if the ordinance had remained as is, Clerk-Treasurer Karen McQueen would be responsible for any issues coming out of the utility offices.

"She already had so much on her plate and there is no reason to add this responsibility if the Board of Works is already handling it," he said. "According to state statutes, the clerk-treasurer or the Board of Works can be put in the position of responsibility."

The council also reviewed the city ordinance regarding when political signs may be put up.

Currently, Brazil residents may not put up political signs more than 30 days prior to any election date.

However, legal issues in other Indiana cities has the council reconsidering the ordinance.

In Plainfield and Lebanon, enforcement of similar ordinances have drawn successful challenges from the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Indiana.

"Right now, we don't have a situation here," Pell said. "We haven't taken any enforcement action on the ordinance."

According to Pell, political speech is protected by the Supreme Court, which is why the ACLU has been successful in challenging the ordinances in Plainfield and Lebanon.

"There is no need to take action at this time, but it is something we need to keep in mind," he said. "We should try to keep current with the situation in those areas and contact the lawyers to see how they are handling the situations."

With Halloween nearing, the council set trick-or-treat hours for the City of Brazil.

With a 4-1 vote, the council approved conducting only one city-wide day for trick-or-treating. Area children will be able to trick-or-treat Oct. 31, from 5:30-8:30 p.m., which is an hour longer than had been approved in recent years. Council Member Steve Lamb voted against the time as he wanted to maintain having two trick-or-treat days.

However, to allow children a second day to go out and receive Halloween treats, the council approved having trick-or-treating Oct. 30, from 6-8 p.m., limited to the Brazil City Fire Department.

The next meeting of the Common Council of the City of Brazil will be Tuesday, at 7 p.m., in the Council Chambers of City Hall.


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Isn't it odd though, Nancy Michael had a billboard on the eastside, well before the 30 days. I guess you can put up a large sign, but not a small one.

-- Posted by Conservative Dad on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 5:28 AM

There are so many divided families that is is not really fair to limit Trick or Treating to only one day, especially since it has always been that way in the past without too many (if any) problems. Now there are children that feel conflicted having to choose which parent to go with and when.

-- Posted by Icareaboutbrazil on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 6:49 AM

People no longer want to pay for trash service are dumping garbage all over our county roads.

I think this needs to be addressed soon!

-- Posted by Pearl2083 on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 9:58 AM

You guys must be a lot younger than I as we could only go trick or treating on Halloween night, no matter what day of the week. Possibly as a sign of love towards your children, maybe meet and both accompany them so you don't put them in a position to have to choose. Don't put this on the town. This is about the kids, not about the parents.

-- Posted by Jenny Moore on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 11:26 AM

What exactly wrong with celebrating Halloween on both night as has been done in the past? I never encounter any problems ~ all the parents & children seem to be having a wonderful time ~ what's next no Halloween at all as some groups would appreciate?

-- Posted by karebabe on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 12:11 PM

why dont we let the city become more communist now, and just tell the children, when they are allowed to eat, sleep, be outside. i relize with the changes in how you are allowed to raise your children, more kids think damage is fun and all time favorites are history, but i can remeber when you could go anytime during the last 2 weeks of october and i am only 41

-- Posted by tdickison on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 9:07 PM

Get over it!!! If you want your children to have more than one night of Halloween fun-have a party for them. Oh wait, that means you have to buy the candy and decorate...Yeah, it's better to trick or treat and get the neighbors to foot the bill.

-- Posted by virginiagrace on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 10:22 PM

Get over it!!! If you want your children to have more than one night of Halloween fun-have a party for them. Oh wait, that means you have to buy the candy and decorate...Yeah, it's better to trick or treat and get the neighbors to foot the bill.

-- Posted by virginiagrace on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 10:22 PM

Get over it!!! If you want your children to have more than one night of Halloween fun-have a party for them. Oh wait, that means you have to buy the candy and decorate...Yeah, it's better to trick or treat and get the neighbors to foot the bill.

-- Posted by virginiagrace on Tue, Oct 14, 2008, at 10:22 PM

"However, to allow children a second day to go out and receive Halloween treats, the council approved having trick-or-treating Oct. 30, from 6-8 p.m., limited to the Brazil City Fire Department"

Does this mean you can only go to the fire department that night? Is that odd????? Someone explain that quote to me.

-- Posted by sassypants on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 7:52 AM

Virginiagrace ~ you obviously consider yourself mother of the year ~ the whole point is that children enjoy dressing up & parading around neighborhoods the good old fashion way ~ it's good clean fun for the kids ~ or do you not remember being a kid??? No one forces people to give out treats ~ if you don't want the trick or treaters simply turn off your porch light ~ hey, there's your sign ~ When is your party??

-- Posted by karebabe on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 8:21 AM

Sassy ~ I'm not sure what that quote means, but I think I will take my children to the Fire Dept on the 30th & check it out ~ might turn out to be a good time for everyone ~ maybe the Police Dept & City officials will be passing out treats as well ~ maybe we can even get the Deputies to do this at the Justice Center & while we're at it ~ what about all the Politicians running for office & local businesses ~ it's not too late to make this a City wide event ~ then trick or treating the next night ~ I'm usually more exhausted when we get home on Halloween than my kids anyway ~ let's just go all out ~ I'll sleep really good when it's over ~ I think the whole town should get involved with this ~ the Fire Dept has taken the lead ~ let's get something started!! We've been talking about promoting the City/County ~ this would be an event to start with...........

-- Posted by karebabe on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 8:28 AM

When I was a child, ages ago it seems, the stores in Brazil along with City Hall, the police and fire stations and I think the Sheriff's Department would have one night for families and trick-or-treaters to stop by and get candy and other items.

There were candy check points where you stopped and people from the hospital inspected your candy and passed out stickers.

I remember my mother and grandmother getting coupons from the stores to use for Thanksgiving.

My father and grandfather usually stayed at the firehouse for the coffee and chatted with the firemen.

The streets were lined with adults and children in costume. Everyone stopped and talked to each other.

I know that in my ancient time as a child things were apparently simpler and a lot friendlier, but we might be able to reconnect as a community once again.

If you know your neighbors, you're less likely to ignore them or let bad things happen to them.

-- Posted by Cy on Wed, Oct 15, 2008, at 11:27 AM

-- Posted by Icareaboutbrazil on Thu, Oct 16, 2008, at 9:42 AM

We always liked to stay home one night for the kids to treat the other and then go out one night so the kids could become the treated. Guess those days are long gone. But if a kid comes to my house before the 31st am I supposed to call the Police?

The Staunton Fire Dept has been treating the kids on Halloween night for several years now and it is really nice. They also decorate and visit with the kids.

-- Posted by Icareaboutbrazil on Thu, Oct 16, 2008, at 10:23 AM

Icareaboutbrazil ~

Yes, yes, yes ~ call the BPD immediately if some ghost, goblin or for sure, a little princess shows up at your doorstep before the 31st ~ we can't let the little juvenile delinquents get away with breaking a City ordinance ~ nip that wanna be gangster attitude right in the bud ~ or just give them a treat & they'll probably go away!!!!!!!!!! LOL

-- Posted by karebabe on Thu, Oct 16, 2008, at 12:34 PM

-- Posted by Icareaboutbrazil on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 8:29 AM


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