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Officials investigate odd fires

Tuesday, December 30, 2008

Officials are awaiting the results of a fire investigation report before disclosing the cause of two suspicious fires Tuesday morning.

According to officials, around 2:30 a.m., members of the Van Buren Volunteer Fire Department initially responded to a 911 report of a fire at a modular located at 10431 North County Road 200 East.

No one was inside the modular during the fire, which may possibly have been abandoned.

While attempting to put out that fire, Van Buren Volunteer Fire Department Fire Chief Pete Taylor said firefighters noticed flames coming from an abandoned home next door to the first fire scene, located at 10461 N CR 200 E.

Although there were water hydrants in close proximity to the fire scene, Taylor said members of the Brazil City Fire and Jackson Township Volunteer Fire Departments assisted in providing water.

"In this type of weather, you never know what the water conditions will be at a fire scene," Taylor said about the three departments working two fires at once. "However, we were able to get a fairly quick knock down time on both fires and get them under control."

A fire marshal investigated both scenes Tuesday afternoon to determine the cause of the fires, but Taylor said he is currently waiting for the findings of a fire investigation report from the Indiana Department of Homeland Security Division of Fire and Building Safety.

No injuries were reported during either fire.

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I'm sorry to say that assumptions are always made when it comes to the small town of Brazil.

I will tell you that the home WERE NOT abandoned. We were the previous owners of BOTH homes. Due to the economy being the way it is, we simply sold the homes back to the bank. We steered clear of Foreclosure, thank goodness.

I'm sure noone was interviewed or questioned by the reporting journalist about this story so they only would write what they wanted to. I have read plenty of stories in the small paper that are far from the truth because noone goes to the sources to get the truth.

I have drove by and looked at my two old homes (we've only been gone a little over a month) and by the looks of it, it was Arson. Does it really take the fire people that long to determine that. I am by no means a fire expert but come on. For two home to burn at the same time? And I can tell ya this...one catching on fire didn't start the other one to burning either. There is no physcial way.

Come on Brazil...get your facts straight before printing stories because this one makes myself and my family look bad...like we just up and abandonded our homes. Which was NOT the case!

-- Posted by JQuick on Thu, Jan 1, 2009, at 2:06 PM

well i think that you should had somebody keep an eye out on your homes if i were a firefighter i would think the same thing ABANDONDED! So lets not get so cocky

-- Posted by tylera1989 on Fri, Jan 2, 2009, at 1:54 AM

JQuick ...

It's like the days of the Roman emperors when it come to the people who leave posts on this site: Shoot the messenger of bad news.

I understand your family's grief, but actually take the time to read and understand what you read before you criticize.

#1. according to officials it was possibly abandoned (first three paragraphs)

#2. Officials = Van Buren Fire Chief Pete Taylor, he's actually quoted in the story. (You do understand that they need to talk to someone to do that, right?)

3. Fire Marshal, Homeland Security, are you familiar with government agencies at all? They definitely have their own perspective about time!

I'm praying for your family and your loss, but don't misdirect your anger in the wrong place. And please don't allow your anger to overwhelm you.

-- Posted by Cy on Fri, Jan 2, 2009, at 1:43 PM

JQuick, It takes an expert, such as an investigator from the State Fire Marshal's office, to actually make the determination that a fire was arson. It may be obvious to the Firefighters and Police Officers that a fire was arson, but it takes a trained arson investigator to make a determination that would be admissible in court. Evidence has to be checked and tests have to be run before a determination of arson can be made.

Also, I think the term abandoned was used in place of vacant in the story; I think the gist is that there was nobody living in the home. Lastly, rather than just driving by your old home, you should attempt to meet with the investigators to give them any information you may have about these fires.

-- Posted by Unsolicited opinion on Fri, Jan 2, 2009, at 4:19 PM

For this being a place where opinion is allowed, there sure are alot of people being offensive to it.

I read the comment about having someone watch the homes. Why would we do that? If you would read my first post, you would see that we no longer own the homes and sold them back to the bank. So, since we moved out & they were no longer our responsiblity, should everyone who sells their homes or places them on the market & moves out ahead of time have to babysit the homes 24/7? It would be like a person moving out of an apartment and still having to keep an eye on the place just because a new tenant hasn't moved in yet. Makes no sense.

For a fact, now...according to a comment made about my previous post. Nowhere in the whole article does it state that officials say the homes were abondonded. The only place an official was quoted was in the paragraph and he was talking about the water conditions in the winter.

Why would someone just automatically assume that the homes were abondonded? People move in and out of homes all of the time. Who was too say that a person didn't move out of the homes and they were still empty because a new owner or the present owner (the bank) were getting ready to fix them up or something.

Also, why should I have to hunt down a investigator to discuss a fire that I know nothing about. AGAIN, we were not living there.

I understand that the work abondonded was more than likely used in place of the word vacant and I feel that a professional writer would have written it that way. I would have. I wouldn't falsely accuse anyone of abandoning anything.

I simply wrote my previous post to clear my family & I's names. It's just simply not right to write false information.

I personally feel that an apology is in order.

-- Posted by JQuick on Fri, Jan 2, 2009, at 11:00 PM

hey listen im sorry for this comment im not the one who wrote it i dont know how it got on here or how somebody signed on my name but im really sorry for your loss and i will keep you guys in my prayers i hope you guys have a happy new year and take care of yourselfs sorry

-- Posted by tylera1989 on Sun, Jan 4, 2009, at 6:41 AM

JQuick ...

You want an apology for a word used in a story that doesn't even mention you or your family by name?

ABANDONED ... meaning in the dictionary... given up

By your own admission in not just one but two posts:

POST 1: We were the previous owners of BOTH homes. Due to the economy being the way it is, we simply sold the homes back to the bank. (GIVE BACK) We steered clear of Foreclosure, thank goodness.

POST 2: If you would read my first post, you would see that we no longer own the homes and sold them back to the bank. (AGAIN, GIVE BACK) So, since we moved out & they were no longer our responsiblity, should everyone who sells their homes or places them on the market & moves out ahead of time have to babysit the homes 24/7?

The point is, you have no responsibility .. so I don't think an apology is in order from anyone.

AND, apparently the bank you sold your property back to hasn't sold it or placed anyone in it ... vacant!

Which, if you look that word up in the dictionary:

VACANT ... not put to use: abandoned

Because you and your family have some cursory involvement with the property, you perceive a false claim where there is none.

Your feelings are hurt when they shouldn't be.

Probably more than half of the people living in this county have no clue who you are, and almost certainly more than that who log on here to read the stories don't know you.

Life is WAY TOO SHORT to dwell on something as trivial as this.

Be thankful your family wasn't living there, that you weren't home, when whatever fool decided to play with fire came a calling.

Count your blessings, hug your loved ones and move on.

-- Posted by Cy on Sun, Jan 4, 2009, at 5:38 PM

Yes I understand what the word abandoned means Cy!

Look at the difference between vacant (empty) and abandoned (left "vacant" WITHOUT notice). It's common knowledge.

I have no idea why everyone wants to start arguements over something in which I was voicing my opinion over. You are saying that I'm dwelling on the "jist" of the story...look at whose talking.

You, have no idea who I am, and have no reason to believe that half of Clay County doesn't know who I am. Both sides of my family (mom & dad) have been well known in this County for years. As a matter of fact, MY Great Grandfather is the one who brought us all CLAY COUNTY SEARCH & RESCUE! So now, please tell me again, that noone knows who I or my family is.

I simply posted on this story the first time to CLARIFY that my family & I didn't abondoned the homes. The police/sheriff dept & fire depts have been told numerous times that we are not the present owners and that the bank owns the homes now. We have already been questioned on two seperate occasions about our where abouts that morning the fires started. Why? We have no ties to the homes but they (homes) were also not just left sitting without notice (abandoned).

I am done arguing with people on here about petty things.

So, for the last time to JUST CLARIFY....my family & I DID NOT just up & leave the homes abandoned. The newspaper should have clarified in the story who the present owner is.

Please if you must read this (my last comment), keep further arguments out of it. I have no time to argue with people who are NO matter to me.

Thank You!

-- Posted by JQuick on Mon, Jan 5, 2009, at 7:42 AM

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