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Areas in Forest Park going smoke-free

Monday, February 9, 2009

Four smoke-free zone signs like this one at the Forest Park swimming pool will soon be placed in strategic areas of the park. Ivy Jackson Photo.
Certain areas in Forest Park are going smoke-free.

Thanks to a 3-0 vote by the Brazil City Parks Board recently, areas near the pavilion, band shell, softball diamond and playground area will be smoke-free.

Board president Ruth Ann Jefferies said the park board voted 3-0 in favor of the decision. Board member Linda Messmer was not in attendance at the meeting, which took place Feb. 4, but Jefferies said she was certain Messmer would have voted in favor of the measure.

Certain areas in the park are already smoke-free, including the Clay Youth League diamonds and the swimming pool.

However, representatives with the Clay County Tobacco Coalition recently approached the board with the possibility of making the entire park smoke-free.

"The first I knew about this was in January," Jefferies said.

However, she said the board voted down the proposal of making the entire park smoke-free.

"We rent shelters to people," Jefferies said. "I don't think it's feasible to make the entire park smoke-free."

Several area residents, however, agreed that making certain areas of the park smoke-free was a good idea.

Jefferies said she spoke with CYL representative Jeff Stewart recently. He told her the league had implemented a no smoking policy around the diamonds last year.

In addition, Jefferies said YMCA Director Chad Zaucha provided the Park Board a letter explaining the YMCA of Clay County had a no smoking policy on its grounds implemented. The YMCA also contracts the adult softball diamond on the north end of Forest Park with the Park Board.

"It can't hurt anything," Jefferies said. "I think we do have some people that smoke that are courteous but some are not.

"It will be really difficult to enforce. We just hope people will be courteous."

Clay County Tobacco Coalition Program Director Kandace Brown said she was pleased the board made this decision.

"They voted against a comprehensive ordinance, but mentioned a willingness to discuss a compromise," Brown said. "I was very impressed with the board's willingness to see both sides of the situation. It is my hope that all will find the park to be a place of rest, relaxation and a safe place for our children to play."

Brown added supporters of the smoke-free zones included her coalition, the YCMA, St. Vincent Clay Hospital, Youth Leaders of Brazil, Clay Community School Corp. and others.

"Many establishments in Brazil have gone to a smoke-free indoor air policy with others being totally smoke-free," Brown said.

Jefferies said signs will be posted signifying smoke-free areas in the park. She added those signs will be purchased by the Clay County Tobacco Coalition.

Jefferies said no plans have been designated to create smoke-free zones in the city's remaining parks, Babe Wheeler Park and Craig Park.

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"It will be really difficult to enforce. We just hope people will be courteous."

Since there is no drug use, burglaries, drunk drivers, etc. in Brazil just put 2 or 3 BPD officers in the park to be sure no one smokes. That is really a high priority offense. :(

-- Posted by I. M. Lee Thall, Esq. on Mon, Feb 9, 2009, at 5:02 PM

Way to go Brazil!!! What a stand for a small town, you are to be commended! A few tickets will remind people this is a law, like reduced speeds in school zones and the seat belt law. I will throughly enjoy concerts at the bandshell and cow palace without breathing someone elses smoke.

-- Posted by callmepicky on Mon, Feb 9, 2009, at 7:38 PM

Enforce by police? Its simple " no smoking " mean no smoking. Can't people in Brazil read?

-- Posted by donalde on Tue, Feb 10, 2009, at 4:21 AM

As Mrs. Jefferies alluded to I think this will be extremely difficult to enforce. BPD has more important things to do than be the "smoke police" driving around the park.

Unless you post someone in the park during the hours of operation (some form of park security) I doubt much progress will be made. I hope I am wrong, but I imagine many will ignore this ban.


-- Posted by Localguy1972 on Tue, Feb 10, 2009, at 6:58 AM

donalde so you think a "No Smoking" sign will do the trick huh? Just like "Stop" signs make cars stop? How about "No trespassing" signs?

-- Posted by I. M. Lee Thall, Esq. on Tue, Feb 10, 2009, at 8:42 AM

I am glad that they have made parts non smoking. And I am a smoker. Go figure huh. I am a bit upset at the locations though. I can see the playground, and the pavillion. But the band shell?

As a smoker I have sat and watched my rights get burned up. Pardon the pun. First with resturants, and then government buildings, and now the park. What is next? Illegal to smoke outside period. I have heard of some communities that makes it illegal to smoke in your own car. Ok personally I think that is going a bit far.

How much further is this gonna take us? We are after all part of the people of this community too. I dont lite up in front of anyone but my husband, who does not smoke. I figure its my choice to kill myself(would die of something anyways) but I will not sentence others my same fate.

How much more money is the city who is already faltering in payments going to be willing to deal out to handle this. Was anyone at the last vandells concert. *Cough cough cough* And that wasnt from me.

Point is city police have better things to do than be watchdogs for us little smokers. Think about the 4th of july celebrations. Its gonna take a whole department of police to deal out the citations. And in a crowd that big......yeah good luck.

-- Posted by dxrs0 on Tue, Feb 10, 2009, at 10:31 AM

I am a smoker and i dont attend any places where smoking is not allowed so all these small business that wont let you smoke outside and the small restraunts where you cannot smoke inside dont get our families business and i know many families like this. If the police want to waste their time giving people tickets instead of catching criminals so be it. i wish people would stop and think about all the business that is lost in this bad economy. I am very respectful when it comes to smoking around others who dont smoke and in most cases i avoid it if possible and this is just another example of society saying if you dont do what they think is right then they'll find a way to screw you in the end. well guess what, thats why most places dont get as much business, especially not mine.

-- Posted by mom of3 on Tue, Feb 10, 2009, at 2:32 PM

I'm glad to see the ban. Maybe eventually we will have a ban in the entire park and maybe local restaurants. I get really bad headaches because of cigarette smoke and I have the right to be able to attend events without getting a headache. I also have the right to breath fresh air. I respect that people are addicted to cigarettes, so maybe the park should put designated smoking areas?? That would be a great idea, lets be fair and put designated smoking areas in the park!

-- Posted by Cessna152 on Tue, Feb 10, 2009, at 2:38 PM

Rights? People pull that word out too often to put weight behind what they feel they need to say. Understood, but not correct. Rights are derived from the bill of rights. What rights do you think you will have when you let others tell you how to live and how to interact with others? Talk of rights can be a slippery slope. What aspect of living in a society would be next. There is no blanket answer as far as I am concerned. But courtesy for others does go a long way. If someone were to ask me not to smoke or move away in a respectful manner I would be happy to do so. I would be a little embarassed that I didn't notice. I don't smoke around people or places that presents an issue for another person. At the same time when a over zealous anti-smoker gets into my personal business I am sure to give them something to complain about. I quit smoking for a long time once and felt great, I hope to do so again... Just don't push me please, maybe I need a Stimulus Package! Also, I know my Doctor is reading this and is going to let me have it! See you not so soon (I hope) Doc. No offense but everytime I see you I don't feel so good!

-- Posted by michael.galloway1 on Tue, Feb 10, 2009, at 6:59 PM

I have a great idea lets ban drinking , and gambling and any other habits that the non smokers like .....i am only saying this because non smokers act so perfect like they have no habits i smoke because i want to no other reason. I dont care where they ban smoking thats just one more place most all people i know wont go. Please stop and think before you make a rude comment about others having addictions etc some people want to smoke and choose to smoke and dont wanna quit. Everyone can do as they please. I am all for no smoking in some places but other places takes it to far, there are choices they do have restraunts with no smoking so if you are quote quote allergic to smoking then go elsewhere.

-- Posted by mom of3 on Wed, Feb 11, 2009, at 8:18 AM

When they develop a way for smokers to keep ALL their smoke in their own lungs, then they can claim their smoking doesn't affect anyone else. Smokers don't realize that their smoke is offensive, because they can't smell it themselves.

Even the courteous smokers negatively affect the air individuals with breathing issues have to breathe from across a room, or an aisle.

The non-courteous smokers wouldn't care if they had specific smoking areas, they have tried that in many locations and these individuals feel they can smoke where ever they choose, creating the need for laws like this.

I hope all restaurants in clay county adopt the no smoking policy!

-- Posted by callmepicky on Wed, Feb 11, 2009, at 10:55 PM

Non smokers and courteous smokers will be the ones to enforce the smoke free policy. The health rights of one ALWAYS trumps the right to smoke.

mom of3: Second hand smoke is extremely harmful to your 3 children. Asthma, ear infections, bronchitus,to name a few. And now strong medical evidence shows kids who live in a smoking environment go through withdrawal symptoms much like a smoker which may be a contributing factor of attention and behavioral problems. I encourage you to learn about such dangers. Resources are available at our local hospital and health dept.

dxrso: Yes, it is your right to kill yourself with first hand smoke and it is your husband's right to allow you to take him with you due to second hand smoke exposure. I hope that right brings you comfort if you find yourself watching your husband die from a smoker's cancer.

mom of3: This husband can stand up for his health rights but your children are completely dependent on you to protect them from harm.

It cost the average Hoosier $1,400 of lost wages per year due to smoking and second hand smoke illnesses. We all pay a higher insurance premium to cover the cost of smoking related illnesses. Now that is poor money management!

Keep up the great work smoke free restaurants and establishments. We eat out a lot and we always go where the air is clear and the food is great!

-- Posted by Smokefree Yes! on Sat, Feb 14, 2009, at 9:22 AM

Why shouldn't all places be smoke free??? Why can't everyone be protected from smoke? Why should some workers have to work in a smokey environment and be poisoned?

Having certain areas where kids play and people congregate is only smart it keeps everyone safe.

If every work place was smoke free, the field would be level..every restaurant, bar,bowling alley, industry etc. Everyone would be protected.

Why is it necessary to smoke in a restaurant anyway? Your there to eat, if you are going to smoke, smoke after..in your home. I hope though if you have kids , you don't smoke around them, your just poisoning them.

momof3, in reality the majority of people don't smoke, and we have more money, because we don't smoke. The only reason you want to smoke is because your addicted, and the only way to feel normal is to smoke, and get your fix...you are ...an addict..it's just legal. You are also poisoning your children and husband with the 4000 chemicals in second hand smoke,.not to mention the carcinogens, nice cancer causing chemicals.

My father was a smoker(40 yrs), he feels pretty bad now that he knows how much damage he has done to his body, his wife and his kids. I use to get sick in the car all the time, headaches especially. BTW his quality of life , it SUCKS now, he was a vibrant man loved the outdoors, wood working, riding horses. Well guess what, he is homebound ...can barely walk 20 feet without stopping for a breath.

24 states have gone smoke free, and about 11 COUNTRIES because everyone knows that second hand smoke is a killer. SMOKE FREE INDIANA....Sounds good to me!! Smoke free Indiana ROCKS!!!

-- Posted by Take Action on Sat, Feb 14, 2009, at 9:15 PM

So this includes outside? Oh, wow, I wonder if there is now going to be a ban on campfires. Because, you know, that smoke is very similar. So, if we can ban a small fire on a cigarette, then maybe we can ban a bigger fire. Hmmm. Auto exhaust? Gas fired furnace? Those are just as dangerous OUTDOORS. I mean, come on people, there is no danger from second hand smoke in the open air unless you're shoulder to shoulder and there is no wind. This is not about health. This is about control. You people all whining about second hand smoke have been brainwashed. I'm a non smoker and ALLERGIC to the stuff, but, this chipping away at our rights for no reason is just a way of sneaking in control. If you think outdoor smoking bans are about health, you are deluded. With our country jerking left you'll find more and more control coming. Get used to it. Where you smoke. What you eat. What you drive. How you heat your home. The kind of shoes you wear. Its coming. Read 1984 by George Orwell and tell me I'm wrong. With the universal health care provisions in the Congressional Relief Act Program (C.R.A.P.) that will cost us 787 Billion Dollars, how much water you drink and how often you pee will become regulated. You laugh in ignorance.

-- Posted by TheRider on Wed, Feb 18, 2009, at 8:20 AM

I look forward to reading Orwell's book. I agree Big Government is getting too big. However, I question including smokefree policies as a "control issue". It is a health issue. Tobacco smoke contains at least 172 toxic substances, including 3 regulated outdoor air pollutants, 33 hazardous air pollutants, 47 chemicals restricted as hazardous waste, and 67 known human or animal carcinogens. If I recall correctly, the smokefree outdoor air policy is where people congregate in close proximity to one another.

I will read Orwell's book and you can read 2006 Surgeon General's Report. I think you will learn there is an enormous difference between a camp fire and second hand smoke. I fear you breathe in ignorance.

-- Posted by Smokefree Yes! on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 10:30 PM

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