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Four arrested during bust

Friday, July 17, 2009

Information obtained during a traffic stop by the Brazil Police Department led to the arrest of four individuals for various drug related charges at a local government housing project Thursday.

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Danny Hull
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Fredric Branam
Clay County Prosecutor Lee Reberger confirmed to The Brazil Times that probable cause affidavits were filed in court Friday against Cynthia Workman-Moore, 46, Andrew Winn, 46, and Danny Hull, 44, all from Brazil, and Fredric Branam, 52, Greencastle.

According to information provided by the Prosecutor's Office, a search warrant was obtained by law enforcement officials based on information provided by an unidentified suspect during a traffic stop in the Brazil area sometime within the past week.

The information alleged suspicious drug activity at a local government housing project.

With a court ordered search warrant, officials discovered Workman-Moore, Winn, and visitors Hull and Branam at the residence, along with at least one juvenile.

The adults were taken into custody and transported to the Clay County Justice Center. No further information about the juvenile(s) was released.

Workman-Moore was preliminarily charged with possession of methamphetamine, possession of paraphernalia, possession of marijuana under 30 grams, maintaining a common nuisance and neglect of a dependent.

Winn was preliminarily charged with possession of methamphetamine, possession of marijuana under 30 grams, possession of paraphernalia, maintaining a common nuisance and neglect of a dependent.

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Cynthia Workman-Moore
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Andrew Winn
Hull was preliminarily charged with possession of methamphetamine, possession of paraphernalia and visiting a common nuisance.

Branam was preliminarily charged with possession of methamphetamine and visiting a common nuisance.

Reberger confirmed bonds have been set by judges for each suspect, with $25,000 cash bonds set for Workman-Moore, Winn and Hull and a $50,000 cash bond set for Branam.

Although unable to comment on the details of a pending criminal case and the ongoing investigation, Reberger said formal charges should be finalized and filed in court against the suspects on Monday.


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Four more druggies off the streets for a while.

-- Posted by I. M. Lee Thall, Esq. on Fri, Jul 17, 2009, at 10:49 PM

Too bad for the child. But he/she will be safer now.

-- Posted by Conservative Dad on Sat, Jul 18, 2009, at 5:37 AM

Read these names in the paper before, will they ever do any time

-- Posted by pepper1 on Sat, Jul 18, 2009, at 7:20 AM

AGAIN? Wow your hard earned TAX dollars working for you! We get to work our tails off just to pay taxes so idiots like this can get FREE houseing! I've said it before and I will say it again...DRUG TEST THESE MOOCHERS ON welfare and the welfare issue will pretty much be a thing of the past!

-- Posted by WhyInBrazil on Sat, Jul 18, 2009, at 7:35 AM

WhyInBrazil not all people that live in government housing are welfare moochers. I would agree in this situation that they are moochers. But I have a family member that lives in government housing and is on some welfare assistance but is responsible for paying rent on their own. They also hold down a full time job as well as caring for 3 young children. So you might be talking out of turn when you lable all of them as moochers. I as well live in government housing and work full time and I get no welfare assistance. I also do not do drugs nor does my family member mentioned above. You do not have to be on welfare to live in government housing it is their for LOW income elderly and handycaped folks that can't afford the high cost of renting or owning a place. Once again I agree with you about these individuals but please do not lable all of us that live in government housing as welfare moochers because we are not all on welfare or drugs.

-- Posted by klk_klo on Sat, Jul 18, 2009, at 7:56 AM

Having been gone from Brazil for 24 years I often wondered what happened to some of the people I knew. It is sad seeing 3 of the 4 people I knew caught for drug possesion. How embarassing for the family. How sad for the children if they have any. Lets hope they do not follow their parents footsteps.

-- Posted by georgiagirl on Sat, Jul 18, 2009, at 9:13 AM

Good Job B.P.D.

-- Posted by Tabby on Sat, Jul 18, 2009, at 9:32 AM

Due to having had to exist for a time years ago on TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families), food stamps, Medicaid, and housing courtesy of the Brazil Housing Authority, I must ask why people in the position I was in, at the time, would risk being involved in the drug scene.

Granted, not all of these people resided at the residence in question. I will not speculate on who the actual residents are as that is not in the news story. I do know that illegal activities, such as what is being alleged, is going to cause someone to be looking for another residence unless the Brazil Housing Authority's policies have changed drastically. (LOL, I know that they were caught "red-handed" but they're not guilty until a court says they are....LOL!)

I've often wondered about the laws concerning the amounts of drugs in possession. Note that it is reported as "possession of marijuana under 30 grams". That infers that it is a lesser offense than "possession of marijuana over 30 grams". There is a quantity that you can possess that gets the phrase "with intent to sell" tacked on to possession. Why? If I have one pint, one quart, or one gallon of gasoline and if I sold you a tablespoon of it with the possession or sale of gasoline being illegal, wouldn't the crime be that I did a specific illegal action without regard to the "size" of the transaction?

I don't think that we are going to have much effect on our problem of drugs until society stops nit-picking over the magnitude of involvement and passes laws that throws the book at people for any involvement.

Do you think that people do not know that possession of a certain quantity will draw a stiffer penalty? Believe me, they do. The suspects in this case probably know where they could lay their hands on more than they were caught with. Having touched the edge of the drug scene due to having lived in proximity to it, I would just about guarantee it!

It is time to put an end to America's involvement with illegal drugs by changing our laws!

-- Posted by Leo L. Southworth on Sat, Jul 18, 2009, at 11:44 AM

I moved away 17 years ago and drove thru town last Tuesday. Brazil hasn't changed, I did. I know three of the four arrested and was only surprised that Andy has allowed himself to go that far. He is in my prayers along w/child affected by these selfish idiots. By the Grace of God, that could me. People have choices, children don't. That's the worst crime of all. Our children are by products of us, their parents. My only son turned out great, living in Cloverland, IN. I am so proud of him, at least he isn't spending his week-end down at the Eagles drunk. Which is where I would be if I had stayed married to his father, or worse.

-- Posted by donnag on Sat, Jul 18, 2009, at 5:07 PM

Having moved away 17 years ago, I was surprised that Andy had let this happen to himself. He is in my prayers. But that poor child is a by-product of it's parents. My only son still lives in Brazil, and though I had by own trouble, and he also had his. He turned out great and I am very proud of him. Only by the Grace of God. there go we.

-- Posted by donnag on Sat, Jul 18, 2009, at 5:26 PM

As part of the conditions for public assistance, I want drug tests and searches at any time. Stop the Public Assisted Drug Dealers and save those children from this cycle of dependancy.

-- Posted by reddevil on Sun, Jul 19, 2009, at 12:34 PM

How about charging her for WELFARE FRAUD???

2 of these people have been nothing but druggies and alcoholics their whole lives! I am quite suspicious that she had her child to get welfare when she ran out of men to pay her bills. The person from out of town I do not know. One of these is just a normal person who worked all his life, was kind to all, and a very intelligent person who just got swept up in an addiction, recently. You can tell which one he is, the one who is clean cut, and clean period. Enlarge the pics, and you will see who is clean and who are greasy, dirty drug dealers.

-- Posted by babydog on Mon, Jul 20, 2009, at 7:35 AM

Well Leo I have my own biased thoughts on punishment for those convicted of crimes whether drugs or other things. While we are compelled by law to provide bed and board for those incarcerated, why anything else without them working for it? If given a "hard labor" sentence, maybe some would learn that it takes work to achieve what they need like meat instead of beans and a more varied diet and items from prison store or visitation time or even prison library time where convicts insist on all the latest law books in order to learn how to make appeals. To me once imprisoned, all these extras are privileges that should be earned. Then maybe when released they will at least know what it is to work for their keep. While some are making good use of their time by entering a distance learning program to learn a trade, others are just wasting their time. So many times nothing is learned so even though a victim may feel that justice has been served in their case by locking the criminal up, it hasn't really helped society long term as we just pay for his keep and he goes back to it again as has learned nothing else.

-- Posted by Jenny Moore on Mon, Jul 20, 2009, at 7:54 AM

klk_klo quit complexing !

times are hard for everyone! govt. assistance is to assist. there are jobs maybe not great ones but the Moochers on welfare are and govt assistance live better than the Hard working without the assistance. Myself . I'm tired of paying for them and you!

my parents wouldn't not dream of taking assistance nor would I.this govt. is breeding people with their hands out and they think we all owe them.

Assistance is to help live not to live on.

-- Posted by Sand mann on Mon, Jul 20, 2009, at 8:10 AM

victory04

I do not feel as though I am complexing. I used to have some of the same insights that many of you are speaking of here. I am not a moocher nor have I ever been. I work hard for the wages that I make but even living in government housing I still am not able to take insurance out on myself, rarely do I go and spend a lot of money at the store because the money is just not there. I am not complaing but also am not mooching. When I have enough to shop I do so. Yes times are rough and they are going to get worse. I put all my trust in the Lord and with him I am able to make it. He makes sure that things I need are met. Maybe if more people would turn their lives over to him they would be better off and we would have less of a drug problem. I feel for the child in this article as I do know the little one here and she is the suffer. She is a beautifl little one and does not deserve to have this sort of thing happen to her. God willing she will not be scared from this and will not follow in their foot steps.

Everyone is allowed their oppinion on things but there is a time when some of us have to ask for help but just because I live in government housing and that is the only break I get does not put me in the same classification as the low lifes that we see and read about on an everyday bases. You do not pay for me but I do understand how you feel. If you are tired of paying for them then maybe you should start praying for them. Exert some energy in that direction instead of complaining about them. God hears prayers and when they are in multitude he hears them louder and they may be answered sooner. Have a gread day and God Bless you

-- Posted by klk_klo on Mon, Jul 20, 2009, at 8:39 AM

The last time I was back in Brazil I was surprised to see that not all that much had changed. The trees on Forest ave. are gone and the high school was torn down, along with the viaduct. It has been 25 years since I moved out of Brazil, and I see that the drug problem is still alive and well. It would seem the Meth has made it even worse. All we did was smoke a little bit of weed and drink beer.

-- Posted by riverman48 on Mon, Jul 20, 2009, at 8:42 AM

As always there are some who can do it and get by with it.The girl[cindy] has been in trouble for this before and yet here she is again. I don't understand why she was allowed to live in public housing to begin with. I know that drugs are a problem in this area, but some people just like alcoholics make mistakes and deserve a second chance.Please don't misunderstand me I am not talking about those involved here,they are repeat offenders.With rehab and a little jail time scares most and they are able to return to society and become good tax-paying citizens.But there is always those who learn nothing and go right back to that lifestyle.We need to elect the right prosecuters and judges to make good decisions based on the facts and not who knows who.Our system in Brazil now is corrupt unless you have money or know an official personally you will rot in jail.Rather it is a first mistake or not.They put repeat offenders back out there to continue the cycle so they look like they are still doin something.Watch the names in the news they are the same repeatedly.

-- Posted by westsidemom on Mon, Jul 20, 2009, at 10:08 AM

Very disappointed to see Danny Hull associated with these bozos. I hope he finds help soon.

-- Posted by tenspeed1984 on Mon, Jul 20, 2009, at 10:44 AM

personally I say anyone with previous convicitions then released to puplic assistance of anykind,should be drug tested every week period and if found positive loose all assistance forever,why should they get free rides from the courts and the taxpayers

-- Posted by T-REX on Mon, Jul 20, 2009, at 12:34 PM

westsidemom

you are correct that Cindy has been in trouble again. I to was wondering how she was able to live in government housing. She eiher was living with someone that could live there without being detected or when she was in trouble before it did not result in any kind of federal charges being on her record. If you are convicted of any kind of drug charges you are not allowed to live in government housing.

You are able to live in government housing if you are a convicted rapist or child molester but not if you are convicted of any kind of drugs. I think the other 2 should be included as well but I guess it is ok to put our kids at risk living near or maybe next to a chom or a rapist. I guess the government dont care as long as they get their money but they must not want to touch drug money but it is ok to touch money from the others. I hope that Cindy gets some help as her daughter is so kind and sweet.

-- Posted by klk_klo on Mon, Jul 20, 2009, at 12:42 PM

cybil111,

Boy are you out of touch. I went to school with the three from brazil, and the one who is clean cut looking as you say is the biggest druggie of the bunch. Although the other two are pretty bad(especially Cindy). This is big $ that causes his addiction, he thinks he is better than everyone as it is. This should show him! I am glad to see that they finally pinched those three at the same time, now hopefully they (the Cops, P.A.'s, and Judges) will figure it all out and not just send them to Steve Sutherland (a waste of everyones $). I hope Shawn and Cindy's child recieves the best out of all this.

-- Posted by rooster1 on Mon, Jul 20, 2009, at 12:45 PM

T-REX

If they are convicted and released for drugs they are not supose to be able to get government housing or food stamps. I think that they can get medicade but am not to sure on that. I agree that they need to be tested but not just weekly because they can beat it that way it should be randomly 1 or 3 times a week. they would have less of a chance to beat it then.

-- Posted by klk_klo on Mon, Jul 20, 2009, at 12:46 PM

Way to go Danny Hull!! Looks like your downward spiral is still in free fall.

As for anyone who thinks a clean cut look is any indication of your moral scruples you should get to know this guy. I hope all four of these people get the help they need.....or the time they deserve.

-- Posted by IHMagnum on Mon, Jul 20, 2009, at 1:15 PM

klk_klo , looks like you have the answer for all the govt. housing questions.

I'm glad someone on here knows first hand . bet it's hard to get a job with a felony , maybe they and their families Really need the housing and the food stamps not someone whom has a full time job and just wants a little more without working for it. just a thought. my energy and priyers goes out to the needy not the ones whom wants.

-- Posted by Sand mann on Mon, Jul 20, 2009, at 1:53 PM

victory04

all sarcasim aside I dont have all the answers but am familular with the law some what. I used to work part time at a law office. Please dont just limit your prayers. Pray for each person out there. Some need more prayers than others but we all need prayer. Even you do. Thank goodness there are compasionate people out there that do care for others weather they are rich or poor or on drugs or not. We all need prayer

-- Posted by klk_klo on Mon, Jul 20, 2009, at 10:37 PM

I haven't lived in Brazil for many years over 20 actually and see things haven't changed much. Sorry to see these indviduals got caught up in meth, since it is a very bad drug. Things I see that haven't changed is the judgemental attitude among most. It is amazing the addictions most of you might have, be it cigarettes, alcohol, porn, or whatever but consider them harmless. Also there are those that probably consider themselves Christian but don't follow Jesus' lead. Remember he visited and I think had dinner with the prostitutes, addicted, and others that society did not consider worthy. Whatever happened to that acronym WWJD. If we put more into understanding what drives people instead of judging maybe we can help others and move forward as a society.

-- Posted by parryj on Tue, Jul 21, 2009, at 12:12 PM

brovo parryj thanks for another voice about WWJD. We are all so consumed in what others are doing that we get off track of what the Lord expects of us. All of these self ritchous people would not be cought helping a prostitute or the lady at the well or a leppor or any other down trodden individual in this town. They only feel good when they can put them down and not lend a helping hand. That is what so many of these folks need. They need to know that Jesus loves them and does not want them to suffer as they are. It will not happen over night but it has to start somewhere and then not given up on.

-- Posted by klk_klo on Tue, Jul 21, 2009, at 1:14 PM

As someone who knew Danny 20+ years ago and knows him today, I would be happy to stand up for his character at anytime.

"It is just as cowardly to judge an absent person as it is wicked to strike a defenseless one. Only the ignorant and narrow-minded gossip, for they speak of persons instead of things."

-- Posted by tennisgirl on Tue, Jul 21, 2009, at 9:06 PM

As someone who grew up in Brazil and has not lived there for 20 years now, nothing has changed. I've known Danny, Cindy and Andy almost my whole life and they have not changed either. Danny introduced me to drugs in 1985 and it was a major issue for me until 1990. I wised up got away from all of that stuff to go on to finish college and get out of there. Brazil is not the same town that I grew up in during the 60's and 70's. It's a shame that someone who does have such a big heart can't see clear enough to make the right choices.

-- Posted by BrazilNoMore on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, at 7:29 AM

In recent months I have returned to Brazil, passing through, only to see a city in decline. Meth and Cocaine were problems when I last lived there over 20 yrs ago, and have continued to bring the city down. While I'm not passing judgement; Danny introduced me to drugs in the mid 80's (I quit them and left town in 1991) and apparently he is continuing to use poor judgement. Very sad. My best advice is to get out of Clay County and clean up your act.

-- Posted by BrazilNoMore on Wed, Jul 22, 2009, at 1:49 PM

klk_klo ,

all sarcasim aside .

I am glad a person of your wisdom lives in Brazil. Maybe you can help change things to make this a better place to raise my girls.I have a full time job and a part time job and I ask for No help. I feel for the people whom are laid off from their jobs, whom can't get govt. assistance due to the fact others are LIVING off the govt. It is an assistance program not a way of life. What are we teaching our children, living off govt, free lunches, free books ,etc. where does it stop?

Your comment :"All of these self ritchous people would not be cought helping a prostitute or the lady at the well or a leppor or any other down trodden individual in this town."

Isn't that what they call a Hypocrite ? not to judge and judging.

-- Posted by Sand mann on Thu, Jul 23, 2009, at 7:39 AM

Our current and past two Presidents have all admitted to drug use in their youth however it has little or no impact on how we feel about them today. As a lawyer, I am very concerned about the comments being posted about things many of us did twenty years ago. Comments which could taint the perception of someone who might be asked to judge these individuals.

Keep in mind that there are many of us who are now running the schools, businesses, and government who "partied" in high school and college. Yet, we have turned out to be successful and productive members of society and strong parents and role models for our youth. Danny has been one of those people.

-- Posted by tennisgirl on Thu, Jul 23, 2009, at 8:07 AM

ok victory04 this will be my last post. I am not trying to be a know it all or a hypocrite. I do try and help people. I to feel for the ones that are layed off or maybe need to get disability or SSI and cant. But it bothers me that in you say these words in your last post. "I feel for the people whom are laid off from their jobs, whom can't get govt. assistance due to the fact others are LIVING off the govt. It is an assistance program not a way of life." But then in an earlier post your words were. "times are hard for everyone! govt. assistance is to assist. there are jobs maybe not great ones but the Moochers on welfare are and govt assistance live better than the Hard working without the assistance. Myself . I'm tired of paying for them and you!" So which is it you feel sorry for those that are down and out whether it be no fault of their own and possibly getting assistance or are you tired of paying for them as well? By the way you do not paying for me in any way shape or form. I work a full time job. Yes it does not pay the greatest but I am working. So I fall into the catagory of utilizing government assistance by living in government housing. I make to much to be elligable for food stamps and medicade. So I buy what I can when I can and dont complain. I go without insurance because it is to costly to get insurance through my employer. I am in generaly good health so I do not have to wory about medical bill at this point. I do not go to the food pantries and abuse that option that is out there for those that need it. So think twice when you say that you are tired of paying for me. I pay my own way and yes it is not easy but I am doing it and happy that I am not a moocher.

I would have to blame the government for some of the so called moochers out there because they have made it almost impossible for them to live without the assistance. Maybe they should reform the guidelines for assistance and then they would have a better chance of possible getting the so called moochers out of the system. At the same time it would also make it harder for someone that truley needs the assistance to get what they need. It is like a double edge blade and there is not going to be a quick fix.

Have a great day and lets try and think of a way that we can use all this energy in a positive way and not negativly as it has been done here. These people truley need help and prayes and not our needling each other. God be with you all

-- Posted by klk_klo on Thu, Jul 23, 2009, at 9:26 AM

klk_klo ,

I think with All your knowledge , there is a small error. If you are in or using govt. housing( all or part govt. funded) I'M Helping PAY for it!

your statement"So I fall into the catagory of utilizing government assistance by living in government housing."So think twice when you say that you are tired of paying for me."

I have thought twice and I have did research on govt. housing and I have found, the tax payer do help pay for govt. housing. feel free to google it at your leisure.

I stated then and now :It is assistance not a way of life . if a person isn't trying to get away from the assistance better job, not spending as much etc. then it is a way of life.

-- Posted by Sand mann on Thu, Jul 23, 2009, at 10:40 AM

I have to agree with tennisgirl because as she states there are many who experimented years ago and some who still use in moderation with responsibility and some not. Not that I think meth can be used responsibly. It would be nice if there was less judging and more people looking for answer. Prohibition has never worked and never will.

-- Posted by parryj on Thu, Jul 23, 2009, at 4:09 PM

tennisgirl and parryj, while I agree with your statements that there were many of us who partied 20 years ago, I suspect your versions of "party" were underage drinking. There were others of us who were hard core (cocaine, marijuana and crank) 20 years ago. PLease don't confuse your misdemeaners with our felonious activities. Everyone who know's Danny well knows that he was hard core 20 years ago, and is still hard core. There's no excuse for a smart guy like him to put himself in a lowlife situation such as this. Sooner or later we learn, it just happens to be later for some of us.

-- Posted by BrazilNoMore on Sat, Jul 25, 2009, at 9:58 AM

Brazilnomore, you seem to have quite a vendetta against Mr. Hull. I've known him for 5 or 6 years, he dated one of my best friends. She and I are both completely shocked by these charges. Your description of Mr. Hull is not the Danny we know at all. But hey, your comments are all about events that happened over TWENTY YEARS AGO so your description is nothing more than old bitterness & slanderous gossip.

I completely agree with Tennisgirl's statements

"Keep in mind that there are many of us who are now running the schools, businesses, and government who "partied" in high school and college. Yet, we have turned out to be successful and productive members of society and strong parents and role models for our youth. Danny has been one of those people."

Amen.

I haven't seen Danny in a couple years. I don't know any of the other people involved and like everyone else, I don't know the whole story here.

I'd still stand up for Mr. Hull any day of the week.

-- Posted by Blueyedame on Sun, Jul 26, 2009, at 7:25 PM

I find it entertaining and sad to see people blaming others for "introducing" them to drugs. No one person should take the responsibility for the actions of another person, but that person themselve. Please be an adult and step up. You are responsible for your own actions then and now as are the four people here. Many people unfortunately continue to make self destructive decisions.

-- Posted by humor01 on Sun, Jul 26, 2009, at 7:47 PM

Even though we've lived in Florida now for 10 years, I can still see that nothing has changed in Brazil. Yes, we are responsible for our own actions, including hanging around the wrong people for event the best of intentions. If you lay with dogs long enough, you will eventually get fleas too. My daughters are now grown and out of the house, we could have never raised them in Brazil.

-- Posted by BrazilNoMore on Mon, Jul 27, 2009, at 8:46 AM

BrazilNoMore, you must not have lived around here 20 years ago or you don't recognize the first part of my name. I made Danny look like an angel 20 years ago. Timse have changed and so have I. Anyhow I think this subject is dead and I hope everything works out for the best for these 4 and they get the help they need. I know they are all good people deep inside since I do know 3 of them from back in the day.

-- Posted by parryj on Tue, Jul 28, 2009, at 8:34 AM

Since I have now been quoted, I wanted to make a couple of final comments. I am not at all surprised to see that this is still the most viewed story on the brazil times website. Some people can only make themselves feel better by putting others down. That increased self-esteem is even stronger when the one being criticized is smart, successful, popular and relatively good looking. As someone who knows Danny today, I will continue to stand up for him.

-- Posted by tennisgirl on Tue, Jul 28, 2009, at 10:22 AM

I have known Danny for a very long time. Let me tell you all something. He has always been one of the kindest people I have EVER known! He is a good person with a good heart!!!! So to tennisgirl, I say way to go. I appreciate people who are not afraid to say what they feel! To rooster, I am pretty sure I know you and if you are who I believe you are, you have NO room to talk AT ALL!!!!!!! I am proud to say that Danny is a true friend of mine. By the way, my name is Shelly. When I have something to say, I don't need to hide behind a username. I have a big mouth and anyone who knows me, knows, I say what I feel and believe!! So Danny if you are reading this, I love ya buddy! I am so sorry for your troubles right now. I hope all these perfect people never have to go through bad times. Can you imagine if people were talking about them the way they have talked about you?!

-- Posted by OHPLEASE! on Tue, Jul 28, 2009, at 10:22 PM

I have no ax to grind with any of the people involved in this article,I however am acquainted with Mr.Hull. I have but one question for everyone who is so quick to defend Mr.Hull. If he is this great upstanding person who isn't the guy that this makes him appear to be what is he doing associating himself with people who seem to be involved with drugs. I am assuming(bad thing in Brazil I realize) from reading the above article that not just the three other individuals arrested had drugs in their possession. Things that were done 20 yrs ago are not relevant today and I do agree with that. Everyone has something or many things that he/she may not be very proud of or wish they could redo in their past but come on this is here and now. If Mr. Hull isn't involved in this type of activity then stay away from the people who are. If he is that guy then get a clue get clean and if for some reason he can not find the strength to get clean stay clean and use that very intelligent brain and charming personality I have always seen him use then do the one responsible thing left stay the heck away from places where there are children around. The children that live in the area where this bust took place have NO control over where they live and they shouldn't have to be around drugs and adults using them. As for the lets drug test everyone in the government assistants programs I would be all for that but who exactly is going to pay for all of this drug testing? The people on the assistants obliviously can't pay for it and the people wanting the testing are not happy about their tax dollars being spent on this type of people so the question remains WHO pays for this testing????

-- Posted by Brazilmom on Wed, Jul 29, 2009, at 11:38 PM

Ok, I just want to put one more thing out there for all of you to think about. This is a very small town. If anyone thinks that they don't associate with someone on drugs, you are living in a fantasy land!!!!!! It is not always who you think and there are several cases where the hypocrites that complain about it, are the ones secretly using. I am not saying everyone who has a complaint is using. I am saying, maybe everyone should take a look at there own friends and family. I am sure you can all think of an old friend or a cousin that you don't see very often who just might need some help. So maybe rather than sitting back and annonomously judging someone, we should look to our own lives and see if we know someone who might need a reality check or a little help!! Remember folks, this is Brazil. A small town, but we all don't have to be small or close minded. Take the blinders off and look around. We all are associated in one way or another with someone on drugs. Believe that!!!!

-- Posted by OHPLEASE! on Thu, Jul 30, 2009, at 7:47 AM

I'm still in shock that there are people out here still trying to defend Danny Hall. He wasn't at the wrong place at the wrong time, his luck just finely ran out. He has used & abused for the last 20yrs. that I knew of him. He always thought he was untouchable. It's time he gets what he's had coming for a very long time.

-- Posted by nascarfans on Thu, Jul 30, 2009, at 3:29 PM

Danny Hull? There must be some mistake here.

-- Posted by dorindaJ on Thu, Jul 30, 2009, at 10:39 PM

Ohplease!, Living in a small town is no excuse for knowing some one who uses. It always comes down to the personal choices that we make. Brazilmom you are right on the mark.

-- Posted by BrazilNoMore on Fri, Jul 31, 2009, at 1:29 PM

Brazilnomore, go ahead and leave your blinders on! I never said being from a small town is an excuse. As far as it being a choice, whatever! There are people in my extended family that at one time or another have used drugs, and guess what? You don't choose your family!!! I would like to congratulate everyone on here who believes that they are not associated with someone on drugs. I bet your world is a lovely place to be with big rainbows, puffy clouds as far as the eye can see and I'm sure, beautiful unicorns!!!! I, however, live in this town and the real world!

-- Posted by OHPLEASE! on Sat, Aug 1, 2009, at 8:06 PM

Look OHPLEASE! I looked over my earlier post and I don't see a single thing in there where I stated that I didn't know someone on drugs I in fact believe I said I was aquainted with Mr. Hull. I am in fact in agreement with you that most people more than likely do know someone on drugs whether they are aware of it or not. The point I was trying to make was that it is up to the individual to make the choice as to who or whom they interact with and have around children.So if the individual so decides to be around people who are invovled with drugs then they are making the choice to put themselves in a place where they may or may not be caught. I as a matter of fact have extended family that have used and may still be for all I know and if they are I hope they find the strength to get off of them but more than that I hope that they have the common sense to keep there problem away from their children and other children. I hope that Mr. Hull and the other 3 can find some help so that your belief in him is well placed.

-- Posted by Brazilmom on Sun, Aug 2, 2009, at 3:13 PM

Hey Brazilmom, my post was directed toward Brazilnomore! Maybe you should double check before you post!!!

-- Posted by OHPLEASE! on Mon, Aug 3, 2009, at 8:55 PM

what is this story about again?

-- Posted by Sand mann on Tue, Aug 4, 2009, at 2:45 PM

having known cindy all of my life, people should not judge her until they have been in her shoes. she has had to fight alot of demons in her life. not saying she was right , just saying she does have a good heart no matter where her head was.

-- Posted by marybeth2565 on Mon, Aug 10, 2009, at 10:52 AM


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