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Animal activists arrested in separate incidents

Friday, August 7, 2009

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Rick Moore
Two non-profit organization employees have recently had some trouble with the law.

Both Ricky Alan Moore, director of the Clay County Humane Society, and Chrystll D. Owens, co-owner of Clay County Animal Rescue, Inc., 763 South State Road 59, experienced their share of troubles in July.

On Thursday, July 9, a member of the Brazil Police Department noticed the Clay County Humane Society van being driven erratically and began to initiate a traffic stop in the area of Chicago Avenue and Pinckley Street. However, the driver continued traveling until it reached an area near the intersection of Chicago and Posey.

When the officer approached the vehicle, he found Moore behind the wheel and a strong odor of alcohol.

During a field sobriety test, Moore registered a positive reading of 0.28. In the State of Indiana, a reading of 0.08 is considered legally intoxicated.

Although Moore was initially taken into custody, due to the extreme level of alcohol in his blood system, protocols at the Clay County Justice Center prohibited his incarceration without signed authorization from medical personnel.

According to jail protocols established in August 2005 -- which are reviewed annually to insure compliance with Indiana laws -- no "arrestee" shall be accepted "with a BAC of .25 or greater" without written approval from a licensed physician. If the arrestee refuses medical treatment, signed authorization from an Emergency Room Physician shall be obtained. In this type of situation, any medical treatment prior to being booked into the facility shall be at the arrestee's expense.

With limited resources, the BPD was unable to have the only on-duty officer stay at the hospital with a prisoner for the approximate four hours of necessary observation.

The officer then transported Moore back to the police department in an attempt to locate a friend or family member that could take custody of him.

Moore was later released into the custody of a responsible family member upon signature of the initial summons.

A summons regarding formal charges for a class A misdemeanor Operating a vehicle with and ACE of .15 or more and a class C misdemeanor operating a vehicle while intoxicated was issued on July 10 by Clay Superior Court.

According to court documents, the Clay County Sheriff's Department served Moore with the document later the same day, stating he would need to appear in court on Aug. 17 for further court proceedings.

On Friday, Humane Society officials confirmed Moore is currently suspended awaiting the outcome of the Aug. 17 court proceedings.

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Chrystll Owens
Meanwhile, on Thursday, July 30, members of the Indiana State Police, working in conjunction with the United States Marshal's Fugitive Task Force, took Owens into custody at her rural Clay County residence on an outstanding arrest warrant for a probation violation in Warren County, Ky.

According to information obtained from an ISP news release on Friday, Warren County Kentucky Circuit Court issued arrest warrants for Chrystll D. Meredith (aka Owens) Sept. 21, 2000. Allegedly Owens failed to comply with the terms and conditions of probation stemming from a prior forgery conviction.

No further information is available.

Officials at the Clay County Justice Center confirmed Owens was extradited back to Kentucky on Aug. 4 to appear for further court proceedings.


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Wow looks like these two have really gone to the dogs. Sorry couldnt help myself.

-- Posted by opininated on Fri, Aug 7, 2009, at 11:11 PM

"the only on-duty officer" I feel safe. My tax dollars at work. Not. Thanks.

-- Posted by Conservative Dad on Sat, Aug 8, 2009, at 5:29 AM

Seems like it would be cheaper to lower the cost of spay and nuetering rather than house unwanted animals with a bunch of drunken crooks.

-- Posted by houseofhate on Sat, Aug 8, 2009, at 6:00 AM

The bigger question is..who is overseeing the care of animals at both of these shelters now? Seems that with all of the unemployment in the area, someone who is more willing to work might want to take over. If Mr Moore cannot drive correctly, how can he care for animals and supervise personnel correctly under the influence?

Same with the other rescue center. Hopefully there are other personnel there to care for the animals and deal with the record keeping in above board fashion. A lot more difficult to trust a person who has falsified documents in the past not to do so in the future without safeguards in place.

What a mess. Now animals who all thought were being housed under a watchful eye, may not have been. Am not saying they haven't been, but does raise doubts.

-- Posted by Jenny Moore on Sat, Aug 8, 2009, at 7:50 AM

Well I see the animals are the ones who have to take another blow for a humans actions. I have to say Im very disappointed in the Brazil Times for making this about the animals! Dont you think the animals have a hard enough time in Clay County? I guess this is the only thing they have to talk about to fill up a useless paper! Great Job Brazil Times...I would have expected a bit more...but then again, it is Clay County!

-- Posted by WhyInBrazil on Sat, Aug 8, 2009, at 7:51 AM

Why in Brazil,

Your comment perplexes me. Where is this about the animals? I don't see where Fluffy or Fido or Giblet were pulled over for DUI or extradited to another State. This story is about the Humane Society Director and a partner in the Clay County Animal Rescue, Inc.

I wouldn't care if it were our Mayor, Judge, Prosecutor or myself,if someone is stopped for DUI at 3 times the legal limit or is being extradited (which is extremely expensive for Ky. to do)for a violation, it should be reported.

That's why your comment is confusing. It came across to me as though you feel there are some in our town who deserve better treatment than the average citizen because of where they work. I am probably misunderstanding your point and if that is the case, then I apologize. I for one just don't think that ANYONE deserves special treatment. If you break the law it should be reported and then prosecuted regardless of where you work, your position in town or financial status. The law is the law, it applies to us all equally.

-- Posted by karenmeister on Sat, Aug 8, 2009, at 8:49 AM

Karen

Sorry to have confused you. My point is neither of these people are true animal activist! I just feel considering these criminals "animal activists" is just a blow to what some of take close to our heart. So you have one who wont learn their lesson drinking and driving...and then you have another who is a fraud...I wonder how the city council feels about giving tax dollars to a fraud?

-- Posted by WhyInBrazil on Sat, Aug 8, 2009, at 10:02 AM

I knew I misunderstood you Why in Brazil. Wow! What a great point you are making and I couldn't agree with you more! I'm sure City Council and our Mayor were as shocked as we all are to hear about Ms. Owen's situation as well.

Since there were no quotes in the paper from either the City Council or the Mayor, we can assume that Ms. Owen's husband or another associate are continuing their agreement with the City while this situation is taken care of. Makes you wonder if her family and associates were shocked when this occurred as well.

Indeed its been a tough week for Animal Charity Org's. in our county, but the Humane Society does have a good Board and it appears Clay County Animal Rescue is holding strong as well. It is a shame that the defenseless one's will suffer most for a human's actions.

I thank you for your clarification and again I do agree with your point of view. I also think Jenny and the others have made valid points too(thanks opinionated for the chuckle..that was funny!).

-- Posted by karenmeister on Sat, Aug 8, 2009, at 10:14 AM

Will someone be caring for the dogs and cats at the Clay County Animal Rescue? The next two days will be very hot and they will need fresh, clean water.

-- Posted by animalhelper on Sat, Aug 8, 2009, at 10:30 AM

[If Mr Moore cannot drive correctly, how can he care for animals and supervise personnel correctly under the influence?]

Good question.

Now, should you care, turn that same question towards town officials, judges, lawyers, and law enforcement that have had identical driving offenses.......

if you need help in your research, don't hesitate to ask.

-- Posted by shadowrunner940 on Sat, Aug 8, 2009, at 12:27 PM

Great post, Catlady. While your questions are well put and articulate, the answer is quite simple.

This article is a smear job.

Ivy Jacobs should be ashamed of herself.

-- Posted by shadowrunner940 on Sun, Aug 9, 2009, at 8:24 AM

I am shocked at the things that some people would say on here. And everyone knows what they say about ones that assume things. So here we go straight from the FACTS, #1: The animals at the private property of the Clay County Animal Rescue are and always will be taken care of, and the Owens family will always make sure of that regardless of anything to come. NOW THAT WE ARE CLEAR ON THE CARE OF THE ANIMALS #2 the Owens families personal business should not be any concern of those who want to assume things. #3 The warrant for Owens was A failure to appear warrant from 2000(9yr.old warrant) Now the Owens family have lived in Clay county well before 2000, BTW: Mr.Owens has over 18yrs.and counting of dedicated selfless service to his country and can reassure you that the Owens family was never notified of any appearance for court from Bowling Green, KY. , Further more if they had been notified they would have taken care of this matter at that time. There is a reason why there are only a few Common Wealth states left in the United States...Gossip all you want to but there has been no lack of care for the animals or the city of Brazil

-- Posted by oknow on Sun, Aug 9, 2009, at 10:17 AM

well well anouther person makes a mistake what about are officers they drink and drive also they just don't get picked up like the rest of us alot of them should not even be working for are city but hey they do.so please don't pick on the ones that take care of our animals,pick on the ones that are supose to take care of us,

-- Posted by lmaoinbrazil on Sun, Aug 9, 2009, at 12:13 PM

Thanks oknow! You failed to INCLUDE some other FACTS...which by the way are PUBLIC RECORD! Mrs Owens chose to be in the spotlight the day she started working with the City of Brazil. You know when you work for the City you are to be held to a much higher standard,seeing how you are paid with Tax dollars!

You said "#3 The warrant for Owens was A failure to appear warrant from 2000(9yr.old warrant)"

According to the Warren County Kentucky Jail, oh and you can check their website at ...www.warrencountyjail.com and look up Crystal Meredith. ALL of the charges are listed there! 1. Contempt of Court 2. Failure to appear on Misdemeanor Charges 3. Probation Violation for a FELONY OFFENSE. There is also a nice mug shot of Mrs Owens :) So No oknow..its not just a old silly warrant! 9 years later and the US Marshall Service is looking for you? hummm makes one wonder and the fact that she is STILL IN JAIL!

HEY PATTI...the dogs need some food and water!

-- Posted by WhyInBrazil on Sun, Aug 9, 2009, at 12:59 PM

People can wonder all they want but the fact is that you will only see what you want to see. And there are always gonna be those people that find the bad in every good. So let those without sin cast the first stone, and always be aware that there is always going to be a bigger stone laying around the corner some where. like I said you will only see what you want to see, and the charges on Owens 1. Contempt of Court WAS DISMISSED ON THURSDAY(judge Brown) 2. Failure to appear on Misdemeanor Charges WAS DISMISSED ON THURSDAY(judge Brown)3. Probation Violation for a FELONY OFFENSE. WAS SET FOR ANOTHER DATE DUE TO THE FACT THAT MRS. OWENS PROBATION WAS TRANSFERRED TO INDIANA IN 2000 AND KENTUCKY PURGED ALL RECORDS OF HER PROBATION IN 2000(judge Grice), While records are being sent to KY. from IN. showing proof that she was released from probation she is to remain incarcerated. Hence the previous quote " There is a reason why there are only a few Common Wealth states left in the United States"... and lil Miss or Mr. what ever your role is today This is not Patti This is Jon, and the animals as was stated previously do have food, water, and shelter, and will always have this without the real concern of people like those that continue to blame all others for their misfortune.

-- Posted by oknow on Sun, Aug 9, 2009, at 3:14 PM

Here the public goes again!

Don't blame the people who made the decisions (whether now or 9 years ago) to do something wrong, blame the messenger who brings the news!

Those of you blaming the paper for printing the story, SHAME ON YOU. Bet you're the same ones who whisper in the dark behind people's backs about things like this! You complain when the "worthless newspaper" writes a story, and you complain when they don't.

Moore didn't make it in paper, not incarcerated, just summons. That doesn't appear till the courts file charges.

As for Owens, ISP released info FRIDAY (read the story). ONLY that info.

As for Moore, it looks like everyone went out of their way to help a DRUNK (You have to be dedicated drinker to blow that high BAC and still function!) get home when they legally couldn't lock him up! I'm not sure I agree with all what happened, he should have been locked up, but I can see the dilemma police were in. BUT remember, only Moore, who is a prominent public persona, swallowed the alcohol! Those in the public who didn't know it, we do NOW!

As for Owens, sounds like a nasty mess of fouled up paperwork. BUT REMEMBER, she was CONVICTED! And honestly, as a member of the public, we should have known about that before. WE KNOW NOW!

How do we know that?

You local newspaper told you that! So stop complaining about the messenger and be thankful for once that you have INFORMATION YOU DID NOT KNOW!

-- Posted by axegrinder1313 on Sun, Aug 9, 2009, at 5:45 PM

shadowrunner940,

Those people who don't like to be in the blinding glare of the spotlight, which will illuminate all your faults-if there are any, shouldn't ask for it to shine on them!

-- Posted by axegrinder1313 on Sun, Aug 9, 2009, at 5:57 PM

I don't know you axegrinder, but I Like you the way you think! Way to go!

-- Posted by karenmeister on Sun, Aug 9, 2009, at 6:41 PM

Yes, the paper doesn't make the news, only report it, personally, public people such as these and the former police chief who stole money should be subject to getting their stories reported, because when they're not, that amounts to a cover up, I know they have no problem showing mug shots, etc. of citizens, so why not get it out in the open for discussion, the discussion in this manner is probably a whole lot less damaging than whats said in the rumor mill, I for one, can't tolerate a paper not reporting stories with the truth about what goes on with public officials, I am still wondering why this guy wasn't brought up on charges, had I stole money, my story would be front page. As for the animals in the care of these two people, I have not heard any complaints regarding the conditions being bad.In fact, probably love the animals more than they do themselves.

-- Posted by Ombudsman on Sun, Aug 9, 2009, at 9:16 PM

Does anyone else wonder why Owens first name is spelled two different ways? One way in the paper and another way in the charge reports from Kentucky. Chrystll and Crystal

-- Posted by abbccc on Sun, Aug 9, 2009, at 10:25 PM

To abbccc,

Maybe like Kentuckey also like BRAZILBILLIES. They dont know to spell. Judging by your screen name you didn't learn your alphabet correctly either. And to all in the dissicions anytime, don't throw throw stones if you live in a glass house as most of you do,

-- Posted by disgustedwiththepublic on Mon, Aug 10, 2009, at 5:04 AM

When I dropped off a stray in June, Mr. Moore was having a bad case of the shakes and difficulty communicating. The problem with his position is not only the care of animals but also the safety and welfare of visitors and volunteers, many who are minors.

It is terrible to see our judges, their wives, teachers, law enforcement, attorneys, and other public community members getting ripped in the local pubs. Alcohol is a drug. We as citizens need to pressure our law makers that this behavior will not be tolerated, period. Covering up is common and how can we raise good kids when we have so many bad parents from poor to wealthy. It has to end. There has to be consequences for this man to get his life back in order--otherwise--he will just die.

Do this guy a favor and get him in a program that will help restore his health.

-- Posted by angelinbluejeans on Mon, Aug 10, 2009, at 5:10 AM

[Those people who don't like to be in the blinding glare of the spotlight, which will illuminate all your faults-if there are any, shouldn't ask for it to shine on them!]

It's quite odd to suggest that serving the public by taking care of stray dogs and cats was a claim to fame.

Even more odd is suggesting that the public is being served by making a DUI stop front page news, then claim that there isn't anything personal.

Puhleeeze.......

-- Posted by shadowrunner940 on Mon, Aug 10, 2009, at 6:14 AM

I would like to bring something to light. The board of the Clay County Humane Society knew full well that there was a potential for this to happen to Mr. Moore. He was hired as the director previously and was subsequently fired for sleeping on the job while intoxicated and various other alcohol related incidents. The board needs to be held accountable for this reoccurence. The mayor will attest that at one time not long ago, that the shelter was in the best shape it has ever been and the board had to go on a "witch" hunt and fire a very good director. It is the old saying "what goes around, comes around." It is very, very sad that the animals are the ones that pay for those with hidden agendas.

-- Posted by cubbiefan on Mon, Aug 10, 2009, at 7:52 AM

With limited resources, the BPD was unable to have the only on-duty officer stay at the hospital with a prisoner for the approximate four hours of necessary observation

WHAT a reason!

wonder how many animals were adopted and the money went into the bottle. lower the prices so the animals can get a home.

-- Posted by Sand mann on Mon, Aug 10, 2009, at 8:04 AM

LOL This is a funny story. When I heard Rick had the position he did there I had to wonder who was in charge of the hiring process there. The woman mentioned in this story I do not know but I would like to say a background check could have found this out but of course they would have had to check diiferent variations of the spelling of her name. That has to make one wonder why someone would change the spelling of their name. Anyhow shows that Brazil has not changed that much.

-- Posted by parryj on Mon, Aug 10, 2009, at 8:56 AM

Does anyone know that Arlie Stacy- the former "wonderful" shelter manager was recently picked up for drunk driving.

-- Posted by townisamazing on Mon, Aug 10, 2009, at 9:52 AM

I think if Arlie was still employed at the Humane Society it would be a reason to worry. He isn't in charge of 80-100 helpless animals that depend on daily care.

-- Posted by cubbiefan on Mon, Aug 10, 2009, at 10:55 AM

What difference does it make if Kentucky is a Commonwealth?

-- Posted by Anodos on Mon, Aug 10, 2009, at 11:35 AM

shadowrunner940

Normally I would agree with you, but there is a difference to this story that you might not be considering.

Both these people, whom if working with organizations established for the care and protection of animals makes them activists, stopped being private citizens (like Arlie is now) when they stood up and took leadership roles in organizations that uses OUR tax dollars.

If this was Indy, Terre Haute or another large city, no one would care. But this is Clay County (population 28,000) and Brazil (population 7,000-8,000), and in this small community these things matter to people.

I pray for both of these people to get the help and understanding they need. Yet, I am admittedly worried that these problems, which were apparently known by some of their coworkers, were not made publicly known.

If they had been, maybe Mr. Moore would have some help and the community would be more supportive of his and Owens efforts to live a clean life.

The truth is, it was a secret until Karma caught up with them both.

-- Posted by Cy on Mon, Aug 10, 2009, at 12:05 PM

QUOTE: " And to all in the dissicions anytime, don't throw throw stones if you live in a glass house as most of you do,"

Dissicions??? How is that glass house working for you, disgustedwiththepublic ?

-- Posted by I. M. Lee Thall, Esq. on Mon, Aug 10, 2009, at 12:05 PM

Cats and dogs got your tongue Kennedy 53???

-- Posted by cubbiefan on Mon, Aug 10, 2009, at 12:19 PM

Lee,

Someone read & understood a whole comment before they started slinging mud about something they have no clue about. My point is made. Thanks!

-- Posted by disgustedwiththepublic on Mon, Aug 10, 2009, at 1:03 PM

Thanks LeeThall...I noticed a few other misspellings (Kentuckey) in "disgustedwiththepubic's" post as well. BUT, I was not asking about typo's, as we all are guilty of from time to time. More importantly, I was questioning why the name is spelled differently. VERY differently (not mere typo's). The point was missed by "disgustedwiththepublic," but I don't really care. Anytime a name is spelled differently, I question it from a legal standpoint.

-- Posted by abbccc on Mon, Aug 10, 2009, at 1:46 PM

Someone must have misinformed Ivy Jacobs. I could almost swear there was a reserve officer with the arresting officer that morning. He could have stayed at the hospital with Moore and THEN taken him to jail where he needed to be, not home with mom.

-- Posted by Dagnabbit on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 7:36 AM

I HAVE HEARD C.OWENS GETS DOGS AND PUPS OFF HOOSIERTOPICS AND BREEDS TO SELL. THAT IS NOT A TRUE RESCUE AND SHE SAYS ADOPT DONT BUY, BUT IF YOU ARE SELLING DOGS THEN YOU ARE PROFITING OFF OF THME. NOT A TRUE RESCUE. SAD FOR THE DOGS

-- Posted by Brazilianatheart on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 7:42 AM

Well Cubbiefan seems to think that Stacy was such an outstanding employee. He's apparently no better than the rest. It was just a matter of time and he would have been caught too. Probably a good thing he was fired!

-- Posted by townisamazing on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 10:07 AM

I've heard all kinds of horror stories about Owens. Get what you pay for I guess.

-- Posted by townisamazing on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 10:09 AM

From what I recall, Ms. Owens was not around Clay county before 2000. She just kinda popped up out of nowhere. I believe she showed up in Clay City about the time the warrant was issued! Sounds a little funny to me!! Mr. Owens is a great guy who has served his country for years!! I am just sorry he is tied up in all of this. She was convicted of forgery. Shouldn't there have been some kind of criminal background check before the county went into business with someone? Also, if she is getting dogs to breed for profit, wouldn't that be a conflict of interest?

-- Posted by OHPLEASE! on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 11:52 AM

I believe all fo this was pointed out before either of them were hired. Sad decisions.

-- Posted by sassypants on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 12:52 PM

I think it is very easy to speculate about something like this. Whether Mr. Stacy would or would not have been like the others is hard to say. What I know to be fact is what the

Mayor has said. She felt that the Humane Society was in very good hands with Arlie and that the law enforcement departments of the city and county were very pleased with the working relationship they had with him. This is reality Kennedy53. If you want to refocus now on the subject that the paper is reporting on, I will be glad to keep discussing. The fact of the matter remains that the board of the Clay County Humane Society should be held accountable for their actions period. The board had the audacity to re-hire a guy who had total disregard for the safety and well-being of animals in his first stint as director. I for one think that the Mayor should call for the resignations of all current board members.

-- Posted by cubbiefan on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 1:13 PM

To cubbiefan: I don't believe that the "mayor" has the right to call for resignations of the board members of CCHS. They don't work for her and it's a non-profit organization, she has no control or say so as to how they operate their facility. As with all organizations of that kind, the members vote in the board of directors. They apparently have faith in their decisions. As for Arlie, once again, the "mayor" knows nothing about the operations of the shelter-I'm sure only what Arlie wanted her to know. I think the board of directors probably know more about the "inside" operations of their facility than anyone else out there. I can't imagine that it would be an easy job to fill and probably doesn't pay much. I can't imagine shoveling poop all day.

Further, I would think it would be difficult to run a check on someone if they assume a new identity.

-- Posted by townisamazing on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 1:45 PM

The Mayor of Brazil has no real say in the operation of the Clay County Humane Society since the city decided not to pay for their services and opted to hire Crystal's (sp?) orginization to pick up stray animals for the city. Looks like neither option was a good one at the time.

-- Posted by Unsolicited opinion on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 2:14 PM

I have to agree...why wasn't a background check done on Ms. Meredith-Owens? Once again it's the poor animals that will have to pay the price.

-- Posted by th1953 on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 2:52 PM

My question for right now is WHO IS TAKING CARE OF THE STRAYS??? The Humane shelter dug themselves into a grave by loosing the city contract and now the other agency has no director???

And yet some baord members want to get on here and defend their decisions... shame on you!

-- Posted by sassypants on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 3:03 PM

I appreciate your comments and will admit I was wrong about the mayor's power . I still, however, find it very troubling that the CCHS board would re-hire someone who had and continues to have issues with alcohol. I'm sure that that position does not pay well, but I think that the board could have found someone better suited. In addition, this board also had Mrs. Owen on the payroll on two different occasions for the CCHS. I think it is time for this board to step aside and hire new board members so that this cycle of bad judgment does not continue.

-- Posted by cubbiefan on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 3:11 PM

That would be a good thing. Then maybe the city would rehire them to do animal control within the city. Too many egos come into play to let that happen.

-- Posted by sassypants on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 3:26 PM

I'm not saying what Mr. Moore did was right, but alcoholism IS a disease. I know because I grew up in it. What they say is true...until he admits he has a problem, he will not stop drining. It is an addiction. Very sad for everyone involved.

-- Posted by th1953 on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 3:42 PM

For all of you "animal lovers" out there, let me pose a question.....

When was the last time you saw someone.....ANY FREAKIN' ONE..........on the front page for a driving offense?

In the mean time, I'll be posing this question straight at the author of the smear job.

Since she writes for the paper, is she willing to face the "glare of public scrutiny"?

I bet not.

In fact, she's more than happy to stir the pot, so long as it isn't about her.

And if it should be?

You'll find yourself tossed from this forum, won't you Ivy?

What a bunch of hypocrites.

-- Posted by shadowrunner940 on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 7:55 PM

My stomach has been in knots since all this came to the front page of our newspaper this past Saturday.

OK - I wil try this again and hopefully my comments won't get deleted again.

As I see it, the focus should be on the animals. Please stop stabbing at each other. Please don't smear another's work. I am not making excuses for anyone. It's just that perhaps I see a huge lack of protocol's and/or procedure's and also probably consistency and communication. Please don't smear another's character though. As I stated before, I will state again; Each and every one of us human's are fallible; no-one human or entity is perfect. Only human's have the capability (as opposed to animals) to HOPEFULLY learn from their mistakes. Although, that decision lie's only in the one who has fallen and whomever their higher one is.

Each and everyone of us humans have a voice or at the least some equivalent means of communicating to actively try to control all animals fates. ANIMALS DO NOT HAVE A VOICE. This weighs heavy on my heart.

Each and every one of us humans make mistakes. It is a part of life; it is a form of learning (again hopefully). We are only human. However, most importantly what I am trying to stress is, please do not dwell on these entities or the/us humans who do actually work for the voiceless. Some of the only big difference's between us (meaning TJ Rescue and Sanctuary, Corp) and the other two animal entities highlighted on this past Saturday's front page news, is that both of them are under contract and getting paid for their services; we do not get paid; we do not euthanize to 'make room' or just because an animal is perceived to be unadoptable. Oh - and I don't drink alcohol and I have never been convicted of any felony to include theft and/forgery. We, TJ Rescue and Sanctuary, Corp. are not paid from any entity. We are a complete 501(c)(3) tax deductible and tax exempt entity.

Again, as hope could possibly float, please do not dwell on this and keep the best eye any of us can on the voiceless and what is in the best interest for them. Their lives, care, maintenance, and well-being lies within all of our hands and hearts (again, hopefully).

That is where and what I see all of us should really be concerned about. Please don't let them (the animals) down (again). Haven't they been through enough?

-- Posted by catlady on Tue, Aug 11, 2009, at 8:51 PM

Shadowrunner,

Firstly, I suspect you are waaaaay too close to this situation to be objective. You know I am right too! Hellooooo Fabulous!

Ricky A. Moore, I am in the possession of this drunken, arrogant neophytes ENTIRE BMV and CRIMINAL history. Should you be interested in this...email me. My address is on my blog. If you don't then, don't be a cheapskate and subscribe to www.doxpop.com and it's all there! There is NOTHING and I mean NOTHING published on the Brazil Times that cannot be backed by FACTS. As far as your half hearted, uneducated issue about DUI's on the front page let's see...Hey silly, what the Fifth Third Manager a few years back..etc.

He is being recorded BECAUSE HE IS AN UNREPENTANT REPEAT OFFENDER. I suspect though, Judge Blaine Akers will resolve the slap on the wrist issue forthrightly on Aug. 17th at 9a.m. in his courtroom, where if you have issues, you can show up and speak your mind. Furthermore, you can always contact Lee Reberger and/or Kim Jackson at the Prosecutors office and give some lame reason why THEY should not charge a REPEAT offender with NOTHING.

I for one, do not want to have too drive in the evening to the store for my young child for various reasons and BE KILLED, MAIMED or DAMAGED by this irresponsible, selfish, arrogant, DRUNK because he has been allowed to have privileges again.

Obviously you are one of those simple minded neophytes who think death and destruction by DRUNK DRIVERS is somehow less than. You should travel and live by cover of night. You cannot even support your views by signing a registered name with your real name. You're simply a coward hiding behind a persona giving speculation and an uneducated opinion because it's easier. WHAT A COWARD YOU ARE!!! WIMP!!!

Deal with it. The rooster came home to roost and the egg he fertilized wasn't golden!!!

Repeat DUI offenders...NO LICENSE..JAIL TIME and no BREAKS!!!

Don't like my opinion?!! TOUGH!

-- Posted by karenmeister on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 1:19 AM

Tammy,

It isn't Utopian. Sorry, half the matter deals with a man with an extended criminal record of DUI's intermingled with no insurance and public intoxication offense. Otis he may be to some. However, Otis was a character on a TV show and TV isn't real life. This dangerous DUI REPEAT offender is on our streets endangering our citizens 7 days a week.

It's all fun and games until someone dies for it.

Animals suffer because of human's selfishness. Deal with the reality and get angry that this man's arrogance caused harm to your cause. He has single-handedly with purpose put a DARK MARK on the whole profession of animal activism.

Sorry Tammy, to me innocent human lives lost on a street after a human selfishly chooses to feed ones self alcohol and then drives, is paramount to this issue as a whole.

-- Posted by karenmeister on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 1:32 AM

That's OK Karen. I realize more than you think. It's just that whenever I get on here and leave ANY comment, The Brazil Times ALWAYS delete's it because believe me, I am not one to sugar coat things. I am honestly very blunt and candid. I say it just as I see it but again when I place that into words, someone sneakily (The Brazil Times, City of Brazil officials, Clay County officials) deletes me and I am shunned. That's OK really - I can handle it - Sorry to say - but I'm actually probably pretty much used to it by now.

And YES - I completely agree to 'innocent human lives lost on a street after a human selfishly chooses to feed ones self alcohol and then drives, is paramount to this issue as a whole'. You are ABSOLUTELY correct and that should not be dismissed in any way. However, unfortunately am completely pessimistic that any justice will be served appropriately. The damage has already been done. It must be nice to be 'one of the chosen few' who can get away with 'breaking the law' and such idiosyncrasities. I just try my best to let such human ways not get the best of me because there is literally nothing I can do about it.

However, I can do my best and NOTHING LESS for the voiceless. That is all I want to matter here. These incidents (along with the prior(s) of course) can only be blamed on us humans. (Whenever I get to detailish and start naming names and/or titles, The Brazil Times then always delete my comment. SO I HAVE TO BE NICE).

It's just such a very sad, sad situation. And what's worse (for me) is knowing that no-one listens anyway.

Please - No-one respond to me and/or this comment for I already know of the one's who will (or at least try). I don't need it.

-- Posted by catlady on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 5:22 AM

Not to get off track, but there are animals in plain view in Brazil who are living in squalor. Sadly, some of them look like they are being displayed for the world to see as torture victims.

They are chained, sometimes barely able to move due to the twisted metal of their cables, chains and make-shift cages/shelters. Dogs can be seen in the sweltering heat, scratching the thousands of fleas that cover their bodies.

Some have the saddest faces, lost of hope and broken spirits, because that is their fate, chained 24/7, with no play, no exercise and clearly a lack of care. These "displays" are a

big bold sign that gives the impression that Brazil does not care about its image or citizens, human or animal.

At the Popcorn Festival, Brazil was highlighted on PBS as a great little town. It still has so many lovely attributes that could be built upon to make Brazil great...a kinder place. Please, City officials, take a pro-active stance on animal care in Brazil and look at Terre Haute's

chaining ordinance. In Terre Haute, dogs can no longer be chained 24/7. It is a start!

-- Posted by animalhelper on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 6:01 AM

I think the most important outcome of this whole situation, is to be given assurance that the animals are being properly taken care of at both locations. Does anyone know who is doing the feeding, cleaning and watching over the daily welfare of these animals?

-- Posted by cubbiefan on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 7:47 AM

I can't imagine that Ms. Owens was able to accept the city contract for $12,000. I have 3 dogs and I know how expensive they are to keep on just a montly basis, that is if you do it right. I'd also like to know who's taking care of them now (and how they were being taken care of before)and is she doing the job the way it should be done. The only way she could have agreed to take the contract is that she's putting down a large amount of animals. Has the mayor or the council been out to the property to check it out?

-- Posted by townisamazing on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 8:21 AM

Animalhelper: I agree Brazil is full of dogs and cats that are not being cared for properly. The city has an animal ordinance, I don't know why they don't enforce it.

-- Posted by townisamazing on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 8:23 AM

I also agree with Cubbiefan, Mr. Moore should have NOT been re-hired! Bad decision-

-- Posted by townisamazing on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 10:06 AM

"Animalhelper: I agree Brazil is full of dogs and cats that are not being cared for properly. The city has an animal ordinance, I don't know why they don't enforce it."

They don't enforce it because it doesn't exist. Check out: http://www.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/I...

The City of Brazil animal ordinance is completely insufficient, inadequate, and vague. And as far as the county goes, any animal ordinance is completely non-existent. However, if I am wrong then please someone correct me but to date have not been able to locate any animal ordinance throughout the County of Clay Indiana.

The state of Indiana doesn't want to get involved in any county/city municipality and they leave all animal issues up to those entities themselves. In fact, all that is required 'legally' through the state is an updated rabies vaccination. However, that is not enforced either.

The animals of the City of Brazil and County of Clay Indiana just don't have a leg to stand on.

And again, please correct me if I am wrong... To date, no-one individual or entity has ever been prosecuted for animal neglect and/or cruelty.

Again, so very sad.

-- Posted by catlady on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 10:14 AM

There is an animal control commission in Terre Haute and they meet once a month. Concerned citizens, animal organizations and animal control have worked for years to hammer out the ordinances.

They are constantly being updated and changed and are not perfect...but it took concerned citizens to bring them into the spotlight. If concerned citizens do not fight for these ordinances to be written and enforced, no one will. I am sure they would not mind if guests joined in at the monthly meeting.

-- Posted by animalhelper on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 10:24 AM

When exactly are these monthly meetings and are they for the City of Brazil or Clay County?

P.S. Please forgive my ignorance.

-- Posted by catlady on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 11:02 AM

Legislature passed a new animal cruelty law this year that should help with convictions. Problem is we have to have a prosecutor that's willing to file it!

-- Posted by townisamazing on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 12:01 PM

I have spoken with the commissioners and there is no animal control law in the county. I do understand that the humane society has tried on many occasions to get one passed but the commissioners have not wanted to get together and discuss it.

-- Posted by townisamazing on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 12:02 PM

Catlady: I remember something in the paper a few years ago where the humane society and the city got together to come up with animal control laws. I think that was when Arthur was mayor. I thought they adopted one from what I read in the paper. They had fees for individuals that had kennels and inspections were to occur by the humane society????

-- Posted by townisamazing on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 12:05 PM

Our community is famous for coming up with practical solutions, but never fully implementing anything.

-- Posted by cubbiefan on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 12:38 PM

Cubbiefan: Amen!

-- Posted by townisamazing on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 1:15 PM

shadowrunner940

You just threw rationality out the window and took up the sword of pettiness, spitefulness and hatred. You're mad that someone you know ended up on the front page for a stupid, stupid decision.

These people, whether family or friends like it, needed to have their indiscretions put out there for the public to know BECAUSE they are paid with county/city tax dollars.

Like I said before, if this was a large city, no one would care. But people in this small community, who are all struggling to get by, need to know these things so they can make sure they are getting the BEST for their money.

I'm not a journalist, but I can read and do research on my own to find out that the writer of this story has the facts straight. Anyone interested in using the technology your tax dollars has bought, can go to the courthouse or use the internet to see that she does.

NO ONE can argue that point.

The only point you contest and the others "who want to shoot the messenger," is why she (Ivy Jacobs) in particular wrote it.

WELL...if the mayor, councilman, commissioner, a police officer or a doctor was caught driving drunk and blowing a .28, would you want to know? They put a teacher on the front page a while back for being drunk and taking a PEE on a public road. Did you want to know that? If you were a parent, you did.

Do you think the families and friends of people arrested for drugs and other crimes want the stories on the front page either? No, they don't, but they are there.

The staff at The Times would write about it just the same for any "public figure" caught in a moment like that. I too remember the story about the bank manager driving intoxicated. Anyone remember John Lambert? The reporter wrote those stories too!

So don't think she plays favorites or likes to "stir the pot" by doing her job!

Moore and Owens are in charge of taking care of God's creatures that can't take care of themselves while using your tax dollars and mine. While one, I believe, is caught up in a legal nightmare, the other one has apparently had problems for years and gone undetected publicly until now.

Apparently shadowrunner940, you're "MAD AS HELL" and you want to scream foul! (Maybe you're embarrassed by your relationship with whomever you are defending?) Everyone who logs on here and reads your posts gets that. It's your right to do so, if done in a constructive manner.

This forum-- whether for good or bad topics -- isn't for personal vendettas of any type. Hopefully you remember that in the future. Because I'm sure that if it became known who you are, you would catch some grief for your bold and moronic statements on this website by someone more rational than yourself.

You should be ashamed for making this about personal attacks and getting off topic with your ranting!

Readers, posters and who ever watches the comment section of this website, please accept my apologies for making such a long post. I hope you understand my indignation at unjust behavior.

-- Posted by Cy on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 1:25 PM

Terre Haute animal control commission meetings are the first Monday of the month at 4 p.m. in City Hall, Public Works Conference Room.

-- Posted by animalhelper on Wed, Aug 12, 2009, at 1:39 PM

I have read some interesting post on here about this alot of them I agree with. I dont agree with Jon being talked about just cause he is married to Chrystal, I've known him forever he would give you the shirt off his back if it would help you. Thier trying to do something for the animals which has stepped on toes. As for the different name spelling That happens. I spelt my name one way for 25 years then noticed it is spelled different on my s.s. card. But all in all this is what I think on it. Sad as it is They made their bed now they have to lay in it. But no one is perfect.

-- Posted by confused33 on Thu, Aug 13, 2009, at 7:19 AM

TO CONFUSED 33

IF YOU ARE BREEDING ANIMALS TO SELL FOR PROFIT THEN THIS COMENT IS WRONG.

"Thier trying to do something for the animals which has stepped on toes.' THAT ISNT DOING ANYTHING FOR ANIMALS IT IS DOING FOR SELF...USING ANIAMLS FOR SELF GAIN IS NOT RESCQUE.

-- Posted by Brazilianatheart on Thu, Aug 13, 2009, at 8:26 AM

Does anyone know who is running the Humane Society?

-- Posted by cubbiefan on Thu, Aug 13, 2009, at 9:01 AM

Cubbiefan: They have a new manager. From what I understand a new board was elected this year also. Everyone on it is new.

-- Posted by townisamazing on Thu, Aug 13, 2009, at 9:28 AM

That is great news. Thanks for the update.

-- Posted by cubbiefan on Thu, Aug 13, 2009, at 10:11 AM

Kennedy... How can the names of Board members and the new director be found???

-- Posted by sassypants on Thu, Aug 13, 2009, at 11:09 AM

Not sure, but I got that information from a very reliable source. People talk and I listen-

-- Posted by townisamazing on Thu, Aug 13, 2009, at 12:53 PM

Maybe Ivy could do a follow-up story and provide the names of the new board members and the name of the new director.

-- Posted by cubbiefan on Thu, Aug 13, 2009, at 1:18 PM

there is no new board when they redid the board the old one was brought back in.

-- Posted by oknow on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, at 6:55 AM

[Firstly, I suspect you are waaaaay too close to this situation to be objective. You know I am right too! Hellooooo Fabulous!]

Wrong again. I don't know these people at all. Also, when you lead with the word 'firstly', try to follow up with a second point (mindless rants don't count, sweetheart).

[Hey silly, what the Fifth Third Manager a few years back..etc.]

Etc.? Try the Records page on this rag. You'll find plenty of drunk drivers not making the front page. Crystll Owens making front page news for a probation violation? When do recall someone making the front page for a probation violation?

Nice job.

[Furthermore, you can always contact Lee Reberger and/or Kim Jackson at the Prosecutors office and give some lame reason why THEY should not charge a REPEAT offender with NOTHING.]

Obviously you're irrational. I never once said the individual shouldn't be prosecuted. I did, however, point out (rightfully so) that this article is a smear job, nothing more. Proof? Do all drunk drivers make the front page? Do all probation violators make the front page?

Obviously not. But these two sure did, and they managed to do it in a single article. Now, if that doesn't raise a flag with ya, then you obviously aren't too bright.

[Obviously you are one of those simple minded neophytes.....]

Says the child who uses the same insult, time and time again.

[Deal with it.]

Just did.

-- Posted by shadowrunner940 on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, at 7:37 AM

Thanks Mr. Gallatin for your kind words. I am sure you wouldn't want things to get Harry. Thanks again "Shadowrunner". Oops! Guess you aren't in the shadows anymore. Lol.

-- Posted by karenmeister on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, at 9:24 AM

Don't recall you having expressed any gratitude previously, but for what it matters, you're quite welcome.

-- Posted by shadowrunner940 on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, at 2:40 PM

Sidenote:

[Oops! Guess you aren't in the shadows anymore. Lol.]

lol........guess again.......

But I do find it interesting that you're willing to access private accounts and post personal information without permission.

Hmmmm.......I'm bettin' you're a liberal, am I right?

-- Posted by shadowrunner940 on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, at 3:02 PM

Just a reminder. Ms. Owens, may have been arrested for probation violation but the original crime that put her on probation was FORGERY. I am still shocked that the county didn't check her out before going into business with her!! What did she forge? Has anyone bothered to find out if this is a habit of hers?

-- Posted by OHPLEASE! on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, at 6:48 PM

Well said CY,

This forum is only useful if people respect each other and try to hear another's point of view. All the other stuff is a horrible example to our community and we will never get anywhere. We are supposed to be adults and act accordingly.

-- Posted by localgal on Sat, Aug 15, 2009, at 10:58 PM