Board chooses repairs for hut

Friday, May 21, 2010
Tina Heffner

After months of discussion the Clay Community School Board of Trustees has finally decided on a short-term solution for its Transportation Department.

In a 3-2-1 vote, the school board accepted the motion made by Tina Heffner to spend approximately $75,000 to fix the remaining violations that INSafe, a division of the Indiana Department of Labor, found when it visited the Quonset hut Feb. 15. This would require the administration to ask for an extension on the trailer currently in place on the lot.

Brian Atkinson and Jennifer Kaelber joined Heffner in voting for the motion while President Ted Jackson and Dottie King were against. Board member Forrest Buell abstained from the vote and Terry Barr was not present.

Before the vote was taken, the board and administration discussed the short-term and long-term alternatives.

Supt. Dan Schroeder told the board the extensions the corporation received were in place until June 28. If the bus garage had not been decided upon then, Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) could charge $7,000 per violation. However, when Transportation Director Frank Misner told the board the consequences of receiving a second write up, there was a noticeable reaction from the board.

"Anything that has already been written up by the Department of Labor, if they came in and we hadn't done anything, then it would be a $70,000 fine per violation," Misner said. "We still have three items on the INSafe that still need to be taken care of."

Though discussion ensued between fixing the Quonset hut or the Hughes Warehouse Building on West Knight Street, Heffner expressed her displeasure with some of the appraisals that have been done on the properties.

"Those two appraisals done on the Williams property were curb side, drive by and my understanding was the Wallace (property) was not," she said. "It has to be the same standard for everything across the board. If we want transparency and integrity for this corporation, then it has to be the same all across the board."

She continued to compare the information the board had received regarding the work done by appraisers between the different properties. Though Misner clarified the same appraisers did look at all the properties, Heffner was not pleased.

"Did they go into the Williams property? No they did not," she said. "I don't know who is responsible about that, but it is an atrocity. That is wrong. We get this mixed information to the board and now we are paying more money and we are in trouble with different fines. This all could have been taken care of months ago.

"That is what I want for this corporation is transparency and information that is available and for the public to see. It is their money," she continued. "We hire people to do their job with integrity to be able to see what is going on. We are all responsible for that, it doesn't matter what area you work in the world. There is responsibility and accountability and documentation that has to take place."

Atkinson suggested tabling the issue until the new board took office in July and explaining to INSafe the situation and that they are working to resolve the issue, not everyone agreed.

"This has gone on longer than it needs to go on," Jackson said. "I am just as frustrated as the next guy. What I feel badly about, as a board member, is we asked for the inspection to be done and we still have three big ones and now we could be slapped with $7,000 per fine or $70,000 if we have an inspection."

Jackson reminded board members they asked for the inspection and they were voted into their positions by the public to make hard decisions.

"Since we've asked for that safety inspection, the board has made no decisions and it has taken a lot of time. It troubles me that we are all in limbo when we are supposed to be the ones making decisions," he said. "I would really like for us to consider some type of short term decision here."

Though more discussion ensued over leasing a location while work was being done on the Quonset hut or to lease property instead of working on the hut, the motion made by Heffner stood and the vote passed.

The current board agreed to table the issue of the long-term bus garage location until the new board begins in July.

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  • In business, there is one thing that is stressed repeatedly....Location, location, location. Your location is a factor in your cost, too far from places you ship to and from or the people that you serve and your costs eat up your profit. With the school corporation, there is no monetary profit, only money that goes into transportation instead of the classroom or money that must come out of the taxpayers' pockets over the amount that we could be paying. Has anyone analyzed the cost or savings of any of these locations in the annual operating budget? If so, I have not seen it. Has anyone analyzed the maintenance procedures of the Transportation Department to see if it has rarely used procedures or capabilities that it would be more cost-effective to hire performed when needed than to have the equipment taking up space to be used once or twice a year? I haven't heard of that report, either. What is a "fueling bay" and what requires that there be one? I've heard these mentioned, but I look around and I just do not see any. I see gas stations with pumps outdoors, and county, state, and federal installations with government fuel pumps outdoors. Why do we NEED fueling bays in the bus garage?

    -- Posted by Leo L. Southworth on Sat, May 22, 2010, at 3:05 AM
  • Leo I don't always agree with your rantings but you have a great point here today. Why move into a facility that will be overly expensive to perfom basic maintaince and operations. Our corporation is in dire need of a new bus garage but all the facts need to be on the table.

    -- Posted by jddriver4960 on Sat, May 22, 2010, at 12:04 PM
  • Once again leo you have proven how stupid you are, it has been stated over and over again in board meetings that the fueling bays are NOT inside all a fueling bay is, a place where a bus can pull up and fuel their bus, it is not covered it is not inside a building it is in the open. So once again you have opened your mouth and inserted foot like you do on everything. You are a self proclaimed master on everything but you know nothing. I figured the time you spent in my beloved Marine Corps they would have instilled some common sense into you, but i can see that did not happen!

    -- Posted by supporter on Sat, May 22, 2010, at 12:49 PM
  • Thank you for explaining your idea of what a fueling bay is, supporter. I was standing in the Wallace building when Frank Misner told the crowd that the west bay of the building could be converted into a "fueling bay". It didn't sound right to me then and it doesn't sound right to call a fuel pump standing outside in the open without some enclosure a "bay". It may be a fuel pump, a place with fuel in drums, or it might be collapsible bulk fuel bladders, which is sometimes referred to as a "fuel farm", but it is never enclosed. I don't know what you did in the Corps, but a fueling "point" is where you fuel vehicles, at least in my day.

    As you are a former Marine, perhaps you can see the problem of not giving the Board all of the facts in a clear concise manner but expecting them to make a decision that will affect this corporation for decades. Perhaps you can recall the five-paragraph operations order, the one where the first paragraph defines the SITUATION? How can they decide the subject of the second paragraph, their MISSION, when they are kept in the dark as to many parts of the SITUATION? What is needed and why it is needed has not been explained to them. That the building is needed is the tip of the iceberg, they need to know why the maintenance procedures are needed. They should be presented with all of the all of facts that support the recommendations and opinions of the proponents of any recommendation clearly and concisely. They should be asking specific questions such as how much major repairs are not covered by any warranties, what are we set up to do that it would be cheaper to pay someone to do when needed, and what must we do to comply with the laws and regulations covering this matter.

    You comment makes me wonder as to your duties, MOS, and rank as a Marine. I was continuously assigned duties three and four pay grades above the rank on my collar and my fitness reports were continuously "outstanding". I served as a Battalion Maintenance Chief, Brigade Logistics Chief and as a Battalion Motor Transport Chief as well as Platoon Sergeant in several units for several years as an E-5 Sergeant. Why? Because I got the job done, period. As you know, the Corps has little tolerance for people who do not perform, they take care of their own and get rid of them. Why did I leave the Corps? Because there was an administrative glitch in my records, a gap in my regular fitness reports, that, although covered by a TAD report, prevented me from getting my rocker. As this happened early in grade, it was buried in a computer printout. It was discovered about a month before my EAS date, after more than twenty First Sergeants and Sergeants Major searched my records over a period of five years.

    Do not "lecture" me on common sense, good sense is not all that common.

    -- Posted by Leo L. Southworth on Sat, May 22, 2010, at 3:24 PM
  • Thank you, Mr. Thall.

    As usual, I'll keep in mind that the idea is to say what you feel and be who you are, because those that matter won't mind and those that mind, don't matter.

    It sure is interesting to observe how people who apparently have nothing to offer on a subject seem to enjoy generating "noise" by calling people names or offering insults.

    "Supporter" could have stated his or her opinion without insult, although it conflicts with what the public has been told by the people who are supposed to keep us informed. He or she chose to add an insult.

    As to your opinion of me, a person is an expert or a fool only in someone else's opinion. A true fool doesn't live long in this world and they can never do as much as I have done and survive. I'm not an expert, just a literate person who looks beyond the confines of the horizon and doesn't shut his brain off just because someone who should be looking out for me but isn't starts talking. When I see people start to go in a direction that I think is detrimental to me, my family, and my community and will be so for decades, I will express my opinion and the facts on which I base it. I have no need to insult people to satisfy some craving to attempt to cause conflict or hurt other people. I think that you might want to seek professional help to find the root cause of your need to do just that before you carry it farther. Good Luck with your problem.

    -- Posted by Leo L. Southworth on Sun, May 23, 2010, at 4:13 AM
  • Hey Leo,

    SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, nobody wants to listen to you anymore. Just sit real quiet and dream of what it would have been like to not finish last. People are tired of you rambling on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on, oops sorry I was running on.

    -- Posted by Ron Archer on Sun, May 23, 2010, at 6:02 PM
  • these comments are totally disrespectful, how many people in this town show as much interest as Mr. Southworth, right or wrong, he is entitled to his opinion just as everyone is, why not voice disagreements with civility ?

    -- Posted by Ombudsman on Mon, May 24, 2010, at 8:39 AM
  • Ombudsman,

    You are correct and opinion, but how much it too much when one person completely dominates something that simply puts his name out there. Is showing interest in something simply saying the same thing over and over again, only changing the wording.

    -- Posted by Ron Archer on Mon, May 24, 2010, at 10:38 PM
  • I don't know, when someone really believes in what they say, especially enough that they post them anyway even though they know its going to incite terrible comments in return and despite that, the opinions continue. My problem is , our society takes politically correctness to the extreme, illegals can't have comments posted regarding their illegality or they get deleted in this paper, I wish a local Veteran could earn a spot to voice a heartfelt opinion in the local paper without being verbally attacked, in my opinion, it would be better to skip over the comments, rather than talk trash to him for an opinion.

    -- Posted by Ombudsman on Tue, May 25, 2010, at 3:40 PM
  • Ombudsman and Leo must be the same person. Either that, or you are a PR director

    -- Posted by Ron Archer on Tue, May 25, 2010, at 4:38 PM
  • No I assure you, I don't even know Mr. Southworth, its simply my opinion based on the degrading remarks he seems to get on his comments. Right or Wrong you can surely agree when I say we need more people who find this much passion about anything going on here in town, if we could find that many people, then maybe it would be more pleasant to live here and we wouldn't have a tavern on main street painted bright Turquoise and Black.

    -- Posted by Ombudsman on Tue, May 25, 2010, at 4:49 PM
  • I honestly believe some people are ment to help keep our eyes open to what goes on in this world. And I myself feel like the schools in this town are worth every bit of opionions and ideals people bring up.It is how we learn all spectrums of issues.

    I also believe some of the people in this town that have nothing more to do then bug a person that is trying to GIVE-A-**** about where or what happens to yours and his family. NEED TO GET A HOBBIE.

    Some of you that think it's fun to bad mouth LEO are starting to look like a DUMBASS! Myself I have met Mr.Southworth and he is a good person that like us all are trying to help anyone we can make it in this world if they are worth it.

    Now maybe if your not helping the problems in this world and runnin your mouth are we to assume your one of the worthless.Man-up (or women)and prove us wrong.And if you don't want any part of it,I have a favor? Shut the hell up!!..MY OPIONION and I"M LOVIN!

    -- Posted by Cardonia Redneck on Sat, May 29, 2010, at 1:00 AM
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