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Suspect helps locate gun used in incident

Friday, June 11, 2010

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Edward Lee Doran
The Clay County Sheriff's Department located the weapon allegedly used to hold a woman and two children hostage during a domestic dispute Thursday morning with the help of the suspect.

After surrendering to authorities without incident around 10:30 p.m., Thursday, Edward Lee Doran, 40, Vermillion, Ill., had a busy Friday.

In the morning, Doran appeared in Clay Circuit Court Friday morning regarding the petition to revoke his probation on a previous conviction stemming from a strangulation case on Aug. 16, 2009.

According to records on file at the Clay County Courthouse, on March 1, 2010, Doran entered into a negotiated plea agreement with the Clay County Prosecutor's Office. Waiving his rights, Doran agreed to plead guilty to a class D felony strangulation charge in return the state would drop the remaining charges, including class D domestic battery and a class C battery resulting in bodily injury.

Doran was sentenced to the Indiana Department of Correction for a period of two years, all suspended with the exception of 180 days, which the court allowed to be served on work release. He was also placed on probation for 18 months.

However, on June 1, a petition to revoke Doran's probation was formally filed and an arrest warrant was processed.

On Friday, Circuit Court Judge Pro Tem Jason D. Brown, with assistance of Chief Deputy Prosecutor Kim Jackson, informed Doran of his rights and the allegations and potential penalties regarding the petition to revoke probation. Attorney Geoffrey Creason was appointed defense council and a fact-finding hearing was tentatively scheduled on July 28.

Brown also issued a no contact order for the victims in the Aug. 16, 2009, incident, released Doran from the work release program and remanded the defendant into the custody of the Clay County Justice Center without prospect of a bond.

Officials confirmed allegations regarding Doran's involvement in Thursday's domestic dispute at a rural Cory residence and an alleged rape that occurred during Memorial Day weekend are currently under review by the prosecutor's office and formal charges could be filed early next week.

In the afternoon, Doran agreed to help CCSD locate the handgun allegedly used during the domestic dispute Thursday.

According to Clay County Sheriff Mike Heaton, Doran took deputies and investigators right to the area where he discarded the handgun in a wooded area near the rural Cory residence.

"The gun has been collected and is being processed into evidence," Heaton told The Brazil Times around 3:30 p.m., Friday. "It was located in a wooded area just south of where the incident occurred."

It is unknown at this time what charges will be filed, if any, against Doran in Vigo County for failing to return while serving a sentence at Vigo County Work Release.

Further details of the case are being withheld at this time to protect the integrity of the ongoing investigation.


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Our prayers with our brother, in hopes and pray that they seek medical help for him, he is truley in need of mental help,rather locking him up he was and is not in his right mind. This is not who our brother is/or we know he wish to be. His heart and mind goes deeply regrets to the victoms in this matter, as well as to himself he is a victom of being/and allowing a woman to toy with his mind and emotions for the second time around. He was already in a very depressed state over the first incident with this woman, he loved her so much that he was willing to put him at risk for another or any play you was doing to him. And when she was caught playing him and cheating on him, then she desides to toy his mind, knowing he loved her so much, he would do anything to for his child they shared together, its clearly this woman had a history of lying, cheating, and manipulating men in her life not just with my brother. Im not saying what he did was right/but when your not sane/not thinking right, you or even I would not know what we do in the same situation. There is allot to this story thats not being told, but trying to make our brother out to be some kind of hard criminal/crazy person trying to hurt people. THAT IS NOT TRUE!!! Know your facts before you put a judge on him/ or for anyone for that matter. This is the second time this lady cried wolf to the police! If the media is gonna attack on a human being/they need to attack on the whole truth not just what they are being told. My brother doesnt deserve to be locked up like an animal/he needs truly allot of mental help, he is not sane or in the right mind. My brother has never been in trouble in his life. He was a and is a outstanding/productive/loving/caring/give his shirt off to anyone that needed it/father/brother/and son/taxpayer his whole life. He has fallen into the hands of a cruel/lying/manuplitive woman. That he truly thought loved him. May all the prayers, and the judical system open thier eyes up and see him and seek the real truth. We love you EDWARD, may GOD watch over him...

-- Posted by nvcowgirlup on Sat, Jun 12, 2010, at 1:16 PM

I look at this picture of my Brother and I sit here and cry!! He looks awful! He looks so empty and not himself. As for the remarks as to him changing his appearance? That is very FALSE!! My brother for many years has shaven his head and face at least twice every summer!! So please do not try and make this out to be something it is not! I am tired of hearing all these false things about him. Yes what happened is serious and very wrong in deed... but there are two sides of the story here and it has been proven that one of the alleged victims here one being his girlfriend at the time in both these cases on him, has been untruthful in the past on charges and accusations she made against him, yet she continued to have a relationship with him and continued to tell him they would get a place together as soon as he was released from work release and raise their now three month old baby boy together! Now who is playing games with who here people? Who is lieing to who here? My brother has told the authorities the truth to every thing he has done, but this alleged victim IS NOT TELLING THE WHOLE TRUTH TO WHAT HAPPENED ON MEMORIAL WEEKEND AND SHE KNOWS IT!! Just like the money she asked him for and he took it to her and she took the money from him just moments before all this took place!!!! Come on TONYA tell the truth NOW!! Tell them you asked him to make love to you!! He did not RAPE you and YOU KNOW IT!!!!!!!! YOU even told him you loved him so why? WHY ARE YOU LIEING????? Just tell the truth! He is in enough trouble here on his own! He doesn't need you to lie to get him in more trouble!!! Thank you to The Public For Reading My Input To The Facts On This Story! Her own Brother In Law which is her Twin sisters husband says this womans credibility is very poor he has told our family before she has problems and he thought fixing her up with my brother would straighten her life out and mellow her out from her life style, but look at what it has done!!!! It has DESTROYED A GOOD MANS LIFE!!!!!!! We Love You Edward and We Are Not Gonna Turn Our Backs On You! The Truth Is Gonna Come Out! You Told Your Side And We Are Gonna Make Sure The Public Knows It Also!!

-- Posted by blondiesf on Sat, Jun 12, 2010, at 1:20 PM

I too hope he gets the help he needs!! A I look at this picture I see someone who, I would bet the farm on, Meth or some other drug is playing a BIG part in his decision making. Locking these people up and not treating the real problem solves nothing. He will get help but unfortunately it will be in the prison system. The story tells his previous sentence. There is no mention of anything in his sentence that orders him to get help for any problems. When are our lawmakers going to wake up and realize that the punishment being doled out is prolonging the problem. Unfortunately this guy isn't the only one it is rampant thru out or country. Good luck to the family.

-- Posted by jddriver4960 on Sat, Jun 12, 2010, at 2:32 PM

In response to alcohol or drugs being a part of any of this, yes the first incident that got him into this alcohol did play a part in their domestic dispute, but this time around NO IT WAS NOT DRUGS OR ALCOHOL!! NO DRUGS NO ALCOHOL. SOMETHING IN THE MENTAL PART OF THE BRAIN!!!! AND HER PLAYING WITH HIS EMOTIONS, HEART, and MANIPULATING HIM AND THE MANY OTHER MEN SHE HAS BEEN PLAYING ALONG THE WAY ALSO!! Yes unfortunately our family is very afraid he is gonna be rushed into the system and not given the mental health care he desperately needs so quickly and deeply!! We are begging someone in the judicial system out there to please help him when they go to see this whole case!! My brother begged me on the phone the day he turned himself in to please not let anyone hurt him he just wanted to get help, for someone to please help him??? Does anyone out there know how this plays on my heart to be on the other end of the line and here my own sibling begging me to help him?? It's scary I know my BROTHER!! YOU ALL DON'T!! So TRUST ME when I TELL YOU HE IS A GOOD MAN, SOMETHING JUST WENT WRONG IN HIS HEAD MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL WISE AND HE SERIOUSLY NEEDS THE HELP OF A PSHYCIATRIST OUT THERE TO DEAL WITH HIS PROBLEMS. We greatly Thank the detectives who did work with him and I to take him into custody! They were very sympathetic to the situation yet precautious to their own safety also. They were very pleasant to our family in apprehending him in a safe manner and in how they dealt with him in his unstable mental state right now. They could of been real jerks to him, but they treated him like a real human being and for that we are greatly thankful! The Sheriff of Clay County is a Great Sheriff in how he handles situations like this. He doesn't treat people inhumane at all like I have seen other Sheriffs do in a lot of other counties!! So Thank You Clay County Detectives and Clay County Sheriff and Sorry I cant remember your names but I am Edwards sister and I just want to say Thank You So Very Much For How You Dealt With The Situation The Way You Did and How Fairly and Safely You Treated My Brother In Apprehending Him under the circumstances. Our Family can't Thank You All Enough.

-- Posted by blondiesf on Sat, Jun 12, 2010, at 4:04 PM

The best part about prison (if there is one) is that people get help whether they want it or not. They become clean of drugs, eat 3 times a day, sleep 8 hours, work a job, exercise on the rec yard, and take classes if they want. Never forget, that sometimes prison SAVES someone's life, not takes it. Many inmates have said, "If I hadn't gotten busted, I would've ended up dead". Sometimes prison is a "time out" from life, where the inmate assesses where he has been, where he is and where he is heading. While he is pondering his actions and life, his victims can rest and hope he will truly be a better when he returns to society...and they almost ALWAYS return.

-- Posted by Claycountian on Sat, Jun 12, 2010, at 4:35 PM

Blondiesf-

If your brother is suffering from mental health issues and does happen to go to prison, he will be treated for that as well. Many people in our society who don't have health insurance, but suffer from some type of mental illness will "self-medicate" with alcohol or illegal drugs. Usually when high is when they commit crimes they wouldn't do while sober. Hopefully health insurance will be affordable to everyone in the future. If he goes to prison, he may very well get his act together and become a stronger man when he gets out than when he went in. Hang in there Blondief! You sound like a loving, supporting sister.

-- Posted by Claycountian on Sat, Jun 12, 2010, at 9:53 PM

if he strangled somebody, held them at gun point, tied them up and raped them and is guilty he needs to be put away for a long long time.

-- Posted by Kirk Smith on Sat, Jun 12, 2010, at 11:15 PM

In response to Whiteboy, I know how the system works and that's why i am pleading here for the public to know the true facts to this story! I know what they do to people in this situation, and I also know that my brother needs help! As far as hating them NO I DON'T HATE ANYONE for ANYTHING! But if they do not get him help and they just throw the book at him and turn his mental issues away like no big deal, then they are only confirming to everyone of us out here exactly what we all know they are capable of doing because their history of doing this has well been proven in the past! Thank you for your honest opinion though. Now In response to LLAMAMAN I just want to say thank you for your response it's nice to know he can get that help in there when he gets in there but I also know it is a waiting list to get that help in there also that's why we are pushing for him to get it started NOW!! This is a serious matter and we as his family, friends and others want him to get treatment ASAP, for he is suffering within himself for there is something wrong with him. Again Thank You, and YES I AM A VERY LOVING AND SUPPORTING SISTER AND PERSON IN GENERAL I WOULD REACH OUT LIKE THIS TO HELP A STRANGER IF NEED BE, I DEAL WITH DEPRESSION SO I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT MY BROTHER IS DEALING WITH WITHIN HIMSELF RIGHT NOW, BUT I DO KNOW THAT SOMETHING IS WAY OUT OF THE NORMAL. AND I AM GOING TO BATS FOR MY BROTHER BECAUSE IF I DON'T WHO WILL? NOW FOR YOU MR. KIRK SMITH!!! Like I have said if you can read at all? Go back to the archives and read my comments on the 10th, and 11th also!! KNOW YOUR FACTS here!! You only know what your reading in the papers here bud, I know first hand about A LOT OF THIS!! My Brother has not lied to the officials about any of this!! He has cleared his concious of what he has done wrong here! Whats not being told is his side and why I DO NOT KNOW!! Be that as it may, but this alleged RAPE??? This alleged victim is his girlfriend who cried RAPE the first time also, and recanted her story and changed her story, and the officials are very well aware she is not a credible person at all! I know this for fact and it came out of the SHERIFFS mouth HIMSELF TO ME!! Her own family members whom also are some of the alleged victims here have also told our family of how she really is and now they wanna recant what they have told us? There are people out there who know this woman including her own neighbors and they too will tell you that this is not the Edward they know but yes this is the TONYA they know!! So you tell me?? They had a domestic dispute yes and what happened there will come out in court but DO NOT JUST ASSUME YOU KNOW EVERYTHING BECAUSE THE PAPER SAYS THIS AND THAT!! For One he did not hold the mother and two children at bay with a gun, that story is not exactly true. He would NEVER HOLD HIS OWN CHILD AT BAY WITH A GUN!!!! OR ANY CHILD FOR THAT MATTER!!! AND HIS GIRLFRIEND WAS NOT THERE AT THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT in the first place so know your facts don't always assume the papers are correct ok. My Brother was in a very suicidal state of mind and probably would still want to harm himself had he not turned himself in willingly, for the sake of his two children!! He only turned himself in for them other wise he would probably of ended his life that's how ill he is right now. So you tell me if it was your brother if you have one and are close to him or your father how would you feel? Yes he has done some wrong here due to his state of mind and mental state but he also needs help for that, not just punishment and forget getting him the help he seriously needs, and needs A.S.A.P. Thank You and I hope You Can See My Point On All This Clearer Now. If Not Then You Need To Go Read Your Bible...Because You Have No Right To Judge Anyone Lest You wish To Be Judged Also and Trust Me The Day Will Come You Will Have To Answer For All Your wrongs Too. Be Them Big Or Small As We All Will...May God Bless You

-- Posted by blondiesf on Sun, Jun 13, 2010, at 12:11 AM

Don't listen to the LITTLE WHITEBOYS in this girl. It's your fight for the life of your brother. Keep your eye on the ball. His stability right now is important. He can go thru alot just getting from point-A to point-B.And there are people out there that feed on people at their weakest. His mental health is the major point. Good luck and be strong,He made a mistake.This is what he did not who he is...

Whiteboy-For you I would guess your alone because not alot of as you refer to HOES would put up with that thing you have..A Lip Problem. Just because this female is a problem for this man does not mean ALL women are like that. And good luck little man goin it alone,I imagine you have done this alot.

-- Posted by Cardonia Redneck on Sun, Jun 13, 2010, at 12:54 AM

I don't know Mr. Doran, nor do I know the victims in any of the cases... so... all I'm going to say is, there are 2 sides to every story, and there really isn't any point in any of us hashing it out on a news site unless we were there. All any of us that weren't there know is what we've been told, and most of the time, that isn't everything.

-- Posted by mhicks on Sun, Jun 13, 2010, at 8:43 AM

To Cardonia Redneck THANK YOU VERY MUCH YOUR RIGHT NOT ALL WOMEN ARE HOES!!! CAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THIS WOMAN HERE IS NOT A HOE!! I am a a very upstanding citizen who is very concerned about my Brothers well being right now! I am not perfect as none of us are. I too have made some mistakes in my life, but who out there hasn't? No one is trying to HASH out ANYTHING on here mhicks..... I am just trying to get help for my brother and get the truth out there. I know my brother!! He came to me!! The one he trust!! He broke down to me!! Do you know what burden I carry on myself as his sister to know what he is going through right now? NO YOU DO NOT!! It BREAKS MY HEART!! Because I KNOW THIS IS NOT MY BROTHER!! HE KNOWS THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG AND HE KNOWS HE NEEDS HELP AND THAT'S ALL HE IS ASKING FOR IS HELP!! HE KNOWS HE IS GONNA DO TIME BUT BY GOD HE DESERVES THE RIGHT TO GET THE HELP HE NEEDS ALSO!! He has TWO VERY BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN OUT THERE THAT HE WILL NOT SEE FOR AWHILE EXCEPT FOR THROUGH A GLASS WINDOW! AND IF THIS WOMAN HAS HER WAY HE WONT EVEN SEE HIS OWN SON!! AND WHY???? BECAUSE HE IS SICK and NEEDS HELP AND SHE PROVOKED HIM??? THAT'S ALL WRONG!!!! BY GOD THAT'S ALL WRONG!!!!!!He LOVES HIS CHILDREN AND WOULD NEVER HURT THEM AND BECAUSE OF HIS CHILDREN HE CHOSE NOT TO TAKE HIS OWN LIFE!!!! THANK GOD IN HEAVEN FOR THAT!! Today our family sits back and prays cause we could be burying him but because of his children,and all our PRAYERS, GOD GAVE HIM THE STRENGTH SOMEWHERE SOMEHOW TO NOT DO IT!! So DON'T YOU SIT HERE AND TELL US NOT TO HASH ANYTHING OUT ON THE NEWS PAPER CUZ BUDDY I KNOW MY BROTHER AND HE TOLD THE TRUTH!! HE HAS NOTHING TO LOSE NOW!! HE CAME CLEAN TO THE AUTHORITIES ABOUT HIS ACTIONS THOUGH THEY MAY NOT OF BEEN RIGHT, BUT HE WAS ALSO NOT IN HIS RIGHT STATE OF MIND EITHER!! AND FOR THAT THEY NEED TO GET HIM HELP!!!! AND THEN PUNISH HIM FOR HIS ACTIONS!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!

-- Posted by blondiesf on Sun, Jun 13, 2010, at 10:44 AM

Oh, I can read and I do know your brother and workered with him for the last 10+ years and like I said "if" he is guilty he should be put away for a long long time. If he is not guilty then he will be set free.

-- Posted by Kirk Smith on Sun, Jun 13, 2010, at 1:07 PM

Mr. Kirk Smith... It's apparent you WORKED WITH MY BROTHER NOT WORKERED WITH HIM!!! It's also apparent you DO NOT LIKE MY BROTHER and THAT IS FINE HE PROBABALY DOESN'T LIKE YOU EITHER!! That's not my point here! It's also obvious you know Shane J. one of the alleged victims here husbands because he too works there and is also one of my brothers BEST FRIENDS!! He looks at my brother like his OWN BROTHER!! He is also the one who introduced my BROTHER to this PSYCHO other alleged victim who played with my brothers head and emotions and keeps yelling RAPE not once but twice now and recanted her story the first time and couldn't keep her stories straight to the authorities to the facts the first time either and that is the FACTS because it was proven in COURT!!!! It was a domestic dispute in which he held her down with his forearm and he was charged with strangulation!! So there now you have your FACTS BUDDY!! Shane will also tell you This is NOT THE EDWARD HE KNOWS AND THAT SOMETHING HAS GONE WRONG WITH HIM AND HE NEEDS SERIOUS MENTAL HELP FOR IT!!!!! SO before you go getting your nuts twisted and thinking you know he should have the frigging book thrown at him and givin many years in prison for this maybe you need to know he is ill!! Yes he does need to answer for his actions!! But he also needs to get the help for what led to his actions in the first friggin place!! We as his family are just as concerned for the alleged victims here as we are my brother EDWARD!! There is a BABY involved here that we all want to see and enjoy growing up. We don't need ignorant assholes like you, who know nothing or apparently don't understand anything about mental illnesses, to sit back and throw your ignorant opinions around just because you think you know the facts and all because you worked with him and you don't care for him, or even if you did care for him. Apparently you don't or you would understand he needs help along with his punishment is all we are asking here!! Shane also told our family he thought fixing Edward up with this so called woman...would straighten her ass out and make her calm down and grow up some cause apparently she is a bit of a wild one and gets around when it comes to the men! Well Edward was unable to do that but she sure was able to give him a Beautiful son and mess with his emotions, heart and use him finacially to her advantage several times including the night of this so called second RAPE she is yelling again, yet she refuses to tell the authorities she got money off of him that night!!! Thank You

-- Posted by blondiesf on Sun, Jun 13, 2010, at 2:10 PM

Thank You Whiteboy.... As I sit here and cry day after day as I have since the day it all took place, I Thank Our God In Heaven For My Prayers and My Families Prayers For being answered that he wouldn't take his own life that DAY!! He thought of his TWO BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN AND DIDN'T WANT TO PUT THEM THROUGH THAT!! I can't even imagine what he is going through in his head right now. All I know is our family is so Thankful he is still with us! Yet at the same time we are hurting so badly for him!! He really is a GOOD MAN!! Everything you just said is true I know. He is NOT A RAPIST AND HIS WORST FEAR IS TO BE CONVICTED OF SOMETHING HE DID NOT DO TO THIS WOMAN!! We know that even without the RAPE charges he is lookin at a lot of time, but to be convicted of something you didn't do is just plain WRONG!!! I know I am probably spinning my wheels here and wasting my time on here but it helps me to deal with trying to get the truth out there for him some way some how!! My heart aches for him so badly and I am so torn up inside I can't function right anymore. This is killing our father!! This is his only son and they are VERY VERY CLOSE!!! I guess he figured telling the truth would be the best cause we were raised to tell the truth! And in his state of mind at the time they let him talk sing like a canary on himself, and took it all in. No we are not lookin for an insanity plea or get off on insanity we know that isn't gonna happen we just know he wasn't himself at the time it all took place. He told myself and im sure the authorities too and a few other people how he felt before this all happened and it just was not NORMAL!!! Something chemically in his brain was not right and is not right and they need to get him evaluated soon. He is at a suicidal state of mind. I JUST LOVE MY BROTHER AND I CAN'T HELP HIM ENOUGH!! I WOULD GIVE MY LIFE IF IT MEANT TO SAVE HIS!!

-- Posted by blondiesf on Sun, Jun 13, 2010, at 11:23 PM

I want to apologize for any wrong things I may of said to step on any of the alleged victims toes here!! I am not a bad person as I am being told now that I am! My Brother does Love Me and My Brother has always loved me! So you are Not gonna take that away from me and I don't give a DAMN WHO YOU ARE!! I know what he told me right before he turned himself in with my help to the authorities safely and that will NEVER BE FORGOTTEN just as he has told me every time we talked on the phone in texts or in person!!! You have me mixed up with another sister in which he was not close to and I know this and the whole family knows this, so as you sat there and typed what you did to me in the e-mail this morning, and I read it, I bawled and bawled cause not only is your family going through HELL, but so is OURS!!! AND HOW DARE YOU TELL ME MY BROTHER DIDN'T CARE FOR ME!!! WHO'S RAPING WHO NOW?????? THAT'S exactly how I feel!! I feel like you are trying to RAPE me of what I have left of my little brother and our relationship together as he is locked up and I am out here! BLOOD IS THICKER THAN WATER!! He will always be my Brother and nothing anyone says will ever change that! We are ashamed of what has happened here! We did not do this to your family He as a very mentally ill man DID!! So why take it out on us? We are only trying to get him help while he is in jail that is all!! Why cant we all pull together here for the sake of my lil nephew here? Or are you all gonna hold him from us too? He is a Beautiful baby and we are very grateful for the pictures of him, but we want the chance to hold him and love him too. He is part of us also. Thank You

-- Posted by blondiesf on Mon, Jun 14, 2010, at 11:37 AM

Well what took you so long , big mouth SAYITLOUD. Blondie , listen whatever you do dont let SAYIT bother you , like we all said , and know he has NEVER , EVER , has anything nice to say about anyone ,, ok so trust us,,,,,over look him ,, hes going to die a lonely old man .. who im sure wont , never mind XXXXXXXXX him out ok , and I wish you the best of luck.you go girl. so mouth zzzzziiiiipppp trouble maker .. , he has no friends ,,its ok .

-- Posted by twmkmforever@yahoo.com on Mon, Jun 14, 2010, at 11:13 PM

sayitloud hit the nail right on the head. Everybody wants to play the mental problem card after their friend or relative gets caught. They want the state to take their issues into consideration and pay for them to get help and then let them go like nothing happened. Where was all of this concern before he did all of this? There are mechanisms in place to force a person to be evaluated before something like this happens, but it is apparently a lot easier to think about closing the barn door after the horse has ran out.

Maybe this "victim" did screw with his mind but that is no excuse to go to the house with a gun, especially when he knew that there were children there. He might not have "been himself" but he had it together enough to hide out from the police after the warrant was issued until he pulled this stunt. How do you think the children will be affected by having a man with a gun break into the house?

-- Posted by snow on Mon, Jun 14, 2010, at 11:54 PM

One thing I do know .. there should only be ONE article posted about what happened, so forgive me if I don't entertain the diatribes or ramblings of other on-and-on posts. (STOP here if you don't want to read mine .. lol)

The Brazil Times opinion page does not prove your brother's innocence or guilt. The "opinion" section is just that - an opinion - not necessarily "right" or "wrong". And we all know what opinions are like ..

I think it's a waste of time to defend oneself to (mostly) strangers. The time to act on your brother's behalf presented itself - you either offered help or you didn't. He either accepted help or not - you can't FORCE an adult to do the right thing.

Bottom line is, HE made the decision (no matter what she did or didn't do) - HE threatened a woman and child with a weapon. That is a violation of the law (and I bet he knew it was).

That said .. "if" he's found guilty (by a jury of his peers or an impartial judge), then he should serve time. If he needs professional help, he will have access while incarcerated. Let's hope this serves as a reminder that taking matters into your own hands is irresponsible and often ends poorly for all involved.

SAYITLOUD may be blunt .. but if you don't take it personal, it shouldn't hurt your feelings. As for WHITEBOYS expert comment about women, police, judges and any other position of authority ... I consider the source.

-- Posted by Emmes on Tue, Jun 15, 2010, at 12:47 PM

Thank you Emmes for your comment you put it correctly. All except for HE DID NOT THREATEN NO CHILD!!For that matter we Do NOT KNOW THAT HE EVEN THREATENED ANYONE WITH A WEAPON UNTIL IT COMES OUT IN COURT. He has told the authorities what he did and he with held nothing from them and without an attorney present at that!! NO ONE WAS IN THERE BUT HIM AND THE AUTHORITIES AND THAT IS THE TRUTH SO YOU ALL CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WISH BUT I KNOW WHAT THE AUTHORITIES TOLD OUR FAMILY AND WE WILL KEEP THAT TO OURSELVES AS BOTH SIDES KNOW THE TRUTH HERE!! He just wants to get this all behind him and get the help he needs, as for LOUD MOUTH WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA WHO YOU ARE!! YOU COME FROM HIS WORK AND YOU CAN HIDE BEHIND YOUR USER NAME AND COMPUTER YOU ALSO ARE THE ONE WHO PROBABLY THREATENED HIM AT WORK ALSO AND THAT'S ALL FINE TOO MAYBE CHARGES SHOULD BE BROUGHT AGAINST YOU ALSO, IT IS APPARENT YOU ALL HAVE OPINIONS WE ALL DO BUT MY MAIN CONCERN HERE IS ON MY BROTHER AND THE OTHER FAMILY NOT THE A-HOLES WHO GET ON HERE AND THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL WHEN THEY KNOW NOTHING AT ALL!! SAY IT LOUD IS NOT BLUNT SAY IT LOUD IS A FAMILY MEMBER OF THE VICTIMS OR ENEMY OF MY BROTHER AND JUST WANTS TO GET ON HERE AND RUN HIS MOUTH LIKE HE ALWAYS HAS DONE!! HE IS A LONER AND JUST LIKE THE OTHER MAN SAID HE HAS NO FRIENDS AND WILL BE LONELY FOR A LONG LONG TIME UNLIKE MY FAMILY AND THE OTHER FAMILY HERE WE ALL HAVE MANY MANY FRIENDS INCLUDUNG MY BROTHER HE HAS ENDLESS FRIENDS.....MORE THAN YOU ALL COULD EVER COUNT.....HE MAY NOT BE LIKED BY A FEW BUT HE IS VERY WELL LIKED AND LOVED BY SO MANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD BLESS YOU ALL

-- Posted by blondiesf on Tue, Jun 15, 2010, at 1:19 PM

Here's a little advice. TYPING IN CAPS = YELLING in Internet lingo/manners. Please stop, because it also becomes difficult to read and "kind of" makes the writer appear foolish after a while.

As for the comments from this man's sister, your outrage is understandable. No one wants a relative or friend's life story negatively to appear in the paper for the entire world to see and scrutinize.

I don't know you, your family, your brother or anyone else involved in this nightmare of a tragedy.

Right now, all that appears is the "one side of the story" from law enforcement and officials in the news. (BTW: The media can only present information provided to them by a credible source, which is assumed to be law enforcement/judicial officials.) That side, from your family's viewpoint, is horrible and probably considered inaccurate.

That's what the day in court is for, to tell "your brother's side."

However, you have selected to "crucify the victim" on this website. Whether she/they deserve it or not, you shouldn't have done that. It could create legal problems not only for your brother, but yourself as well.

My prayers go out to the family of this man and the victims.

For those among you who "hate" the legal system and members of law enforcement of this country: It's the best we have and even at it's worst it's still better than many other legal systems in other countries around the world.

This man is part of the system now, and, if he's guilty, he will go to prison. As hard as it is for the family, it's not supposed to be a vacation and it will be difficult. But there will be access to programs that will help him, if he wants to be helped.

My concern is for those not in the system, because it appears there are deep wounds for everyone involved. Please seek out help for yourselves and for the children of this man.

Stop spreading the poison of domestic violence now, before the cycle begins anew.

-- Posted by Cy on Tue, Jun 15, 2010, at 3:36 PM

In response to Cy I have done nothing at all to cause myself or my brother any legal problems where the alleged victims are concerned here! Take the computer lingo crap and shove it to whom ever doesn't like how I present my comments here. I am not yelling I am putting it in Big Letters to STAND OUT FOR I AM VERY IRRITATED HERE!!! I have not crucified anyone here, I simply stated the FACTS THAT THIS WOMAN HAS NOT TOLD THE TRUTH IN THE PAST AND HAS A HISTORY OF NOT TELLING THE TRUTH AND HER FAMILY KNOWS THIS ALSO! THAT IS ALL I SAID!!

-- Posted by blondiesf on Tue, Jun 15, 2010, at 9:07 PM

Thank you, CY for your "true to form" comments .. you tend to make sense of the senseless.

Thank you, SAYITLOUD, for posting your opinion on here .. which I for one enjoy reading.

The truth hurts sometimes .. no matter how you say it.

-- Posted by Emmes on Wed, Jun 16, 2010, at 10:55 AM

Oh, and BLONDIE .. if the child was in the house when this man brandished his weapon (as indicated in the article), he most certainly DID threaten a child. The term "threaten" does not necessarily mean he pointed the weapon at the child.

I don't know whether he actually had a weapon or not, but the article says "Suspect Helps Locate Gun Used in Indicent", so that tells me he had one. I didn't inject that into the story, I read it.

Possibly why he has 9 charges against him.

-- Posted by Emmes on Wed, Jun 16, 2010, at 11:00 AM

YOU ALL HAVE YOUR FUN ON HERE!! IT'S OBVIOUS YOU'VE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN JUDGE JUDGE JUDGE SO HAVE A GOOD DAY AND GOD BLESS!!!!!!

-- Posted by blondiesf on Wed, Jun 16, 2010, at 12:17 PM

I am sorry to say this but I have been very entertained by the rantings of somebody SHOUTING at the top of her lungs in regards to the mental capacities of her brother! Wow!

I am also very entertained by the "jailhouse" lawyer who, if I am getting this right, is still in prison! Why are you on the internet? Why, if you have been involved in as many cases as you say you have been....highly doubtful....is your grammer and your puncuation attrocious!? You have said several things on here that make me wanna go "OMG you are flippin' kidding me right?" You Sir are ignorant!

I do agree with Cy, Sayitloud, Emmes and a couple of others who have made sense. Regardless of his mental capacities, he has a history and it's not a good one. Be that as it may, he should know right from wrong...this was way wrong but of course it always seems to be somebody else's fault according to the blond one. Gosh, how sad! I hope everybody involved gets the help they truly need and that justice finds herself on the side of being right and fair.

-- Posted by Proud of My Country on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 11:25 AM

Blondiesf, I'm sure your brother's lawyer would say to you "Shut your mouth". Because you are not typing anymore I am assuming you have already been told this. Not to be mean but you are possibly compromising your brother's case. Leave it to the lawyers to present some of these items in a professional matter to a jury & judge. That is what they are paid for. If you want to support your brother you can talk about his qualities, not his past mental or legal problems or talk about the alleged victims. As you are typing stop & think "should I really post this". You can't undo the damage you have possibly done, but hopefully you will make better decisions in the future.

-- Posted by LifetimeBrazilian on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 3:01 PM

Love you uncle edward. I really hope you find peace with yourself and with god. I can't read this crap or look at those pictures anymore.

-- Posted by nv89815 on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 7:22 PM

Excuse me, but no I have not been told to keep my mouth SHUT by ANYONE!! For the simple reason I have not done anything to hurt my brother in anyway! Thank You Very Much! How do you figure I am hurting my brother by telling the truth here people? He is not like this and that is a FACT! Don't accuse the family of doing anything wrong here unless you have proof! Who the hell do you think you are? GOD? Cause YOUR NOT! BY FAR!! It goes to show every ones ignorance on here, by the way you go and judge people and slam on them and convict them and who are you to judge anyone? Let's pull out all the skeletons in your families closets to be aired out to the public and see what everyone has to say about you all! I choose to get on here if I want to not because I am told to or not told to...KAPEEESH!!!!! My brother has never gone around and acted like a tough man with women so whoever you are going around saying that crap, that is all it is ....is CRAP!! He is a man who has worked several years at a very well known factory for many years in Terre Haute Indiana, and has worked hard all his life to support his family. He is a loving person who has always helped his friends and family and put them before himself many times over! He also is a very good Taxidermist and owns his own Taxidermist business and does very good work for many people who are proud to take their deer heads to him every year to be mounted! He is an Avid hunter and fisherman and has been all his life. He has very many friends, and is very well liked despite what some of you may think! He loves the outdoors, and loves to mushroom hunt and can grow a garden only some of us can only dream of growing. He has a green thumb that's for sure. He played in softball leagues over the years and even had his own team at one time. He enjoys spending time with his friends fishing, hunting and just goofing off out in the woods and out on the golf course and on four wheelers. He is a very comical person and has a big heart. I know a lot of you are gonna read this and have something ignorant to say about this but I really don't care, you asked what he was like so I am telling you. He loves his many nieces and nephews and has two nephews out in Nevada who are Twins and fight MMA and he is very proud of them. He is not and was not on drugs as some are saying. Yes he had been crying in his mugshot, but for those who care to understand, he is not himself at this time and is seeking help for it. Both families, are hurting here and both families don't care to hear the crap being slung against him either way. You forget his best friend is one of them! Just let us all be! People! Enough is enough here! GROW UP!! If it were one of your family members or close friends, I guarantee you would not be on here slamming them like you are my brother and my family! It just isn't right and you know it. I believe in GOD, but do the others who are writing the things they are on here believe in him also? I don't think so! If you do, then you better get your bible out and go to church because you all are committing one sin right after the other, by the nasty, negative and vulgar things you say on here towards him and myself and our family. And I will pray for you all as I pray for everyone, because this world is rough enough on us all without cruel, judging, and uncaring people like yourselves out there in this world already. May God Bless You and I ask you nicely to Please leave me and my family and the other family alone now. Thank you.

-- Posted by blondiesf on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 8:41 PM

LIFETIMEBRAZILIAN .. excellent advice. I think it worked. ; )

-- Posted by Emmes on Fri, Jun 18, 2010, at 1:06 PM

SAYITLOUD: It is apparent you are childish and ignorant! For one you don't forward that kind of stuff to any match making site! Grow up IDIOT! Get a life! Find some thing productive to do with your time rather than being a pure A$$ on this site by showing your obvious low IQ Level!! Thank You and God Bless

-- Posted by blondiesf on Sun, Jul 4, 2010, at 4:06 PM


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