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Band inching closer to grant

Wednesday, June 16, 2010

The Northview High School Band and Guard currently ranks 21st in the running for a $25,000 grant from the Pepsi Corporation through the Pepsi Refresh Project.
With only a handful of days remaining, the Northview High School Band and Guard are a few spots away from receiving a hefty grant.

NHS Band Director Bob Medworth told The Brazil Times the program currently ranks 21st in its grant category.

The program learned the Pepsi Corporation was handing out grants earlier this year.

"The Pepsi people in Terre Haute told us about it," Medworth said. "The manager of the Pepsi operation in Terre Haute (Bill Osborn) is a former band booster."

Applying for the grant, however, turned out to be somewhat difficult.

Medworth said associates within the program attempted to apply a few months ago, but were unable to do so.

"There's so many people (applying)," he said. "But this is the first year it's been available."

But on May 1, he said five people within the program sat down at five separate computers and managed to get the program applied.

According to the Northview grant page, titled www.refresheverything.com/keepthekidsons..., the band hopes to receive the money to help fund 50 performances for the 200 students in the program.

The site states the band intends to use the money for the following:

* Purchase new music for all performances and commission original compositions for concerts,

* Fund a guest artist/clinician for the Rotary performances, the three-night Christmas Spectacular, the Pops Concert and Jazz Café,

* Purchase special music arrangements for the 2010 Northview Marching Knights,

* Provide funding to bring local elementary students to a Christmas Spectacular performance,

* Fund a Breakfast with Santa concert for local under-privileged young people,

* Fund a "side by side" concert with Northview musicians and local professionals,

* Purchase special music arrangements for the 2011 Indoor Percussion ensemble,

* Provide funding for a professional soundtrack for the 2011 Winter Guard Show, and

* Purchase five computers for computer assisted music instruction.

Those interested in voting may do so one time per day.

"Anybody with an e-mail account can vote," Medworth said.

For those who use Facebook, Medworth said there was an application that may be accessed through the Pepsi Facebook page where people may also vote.

Voting for the grants is scheduled to conclude June 30 and the top 10 in each category will receive grant money.

The Northview program is in the running for the $25,000 grant.

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I think that this would be great for the band. Perhaps then, some of the fundraising that they seem to do could lessen. Perhaps the concessions at football and basketball games could be done for the athetic programs that are struggling to keep from having to charge kids to play. The band is great, but I think that the time has come for some of the other programs at Northview to get some help. I am not trying to be a band hater, just a fan of equality. Do the kids in band have to have certain grades to participate like they do in athletics? Are there restrictions in practice times? I understand the fact that the band has done things that no other programs at Northview have done. How many schools are in our class in band compared to how many in athletics? Other than golf and track, is there another sport where you don't have to win to advance like the band does? This is not going to be a popular posting, but one that others surely agree with.

-- Posted by Ron Archer on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 1:45 AM

I think those are legitimate questions electriceye. You're right. It won't be a popular post. But these are questions I'm sure a lot of people are asking. Another question would concern participation by junior high age kids in the high school band; such is the case at Clay City. Should that be allowed to happen?? Just asking.

-- Posted by Jed on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 6:58 AM

These band members APPLIED FOR A GRANT. Any program at any school could apply for this same grant. So why do you feel the need to down a successful program. Didn't your mama teach you if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all???? Every person involved with the Northview Band program works extremely hard to raise the money they need and to be successful and my CONGRATULATIONS go out to them!!!! I'm going to vote now.

-- Posted by esb431 on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 8:06 AM

electriceye - According to the CCSC Secondary Corporation Handbook, the policies for participation in all extra-curricular activities are the same.

From what I've observed, the students in all of the extra-curricular activities raise as much of their own funding as they can.

-- Posted by Leo L. Southworth on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 8:56 AM

Band kids have to pay to participate to be a part of the program. They have to pay for the instruments, reeds, sticks, lessons, marching shoes,guard equipment and many other things that go along with the activity. They also invest their time at practice with the entire group and at home on their own, year round. From what I remember when my boys marched, you had to keep the grades up. If memory serves me correct, there are 37 other bands in Class B which Northview competes with/against at different levels, as in athletics, in order to advance to State. So they do have to "win" in order to advance.

Their parent booster group {one of the best I've seen} works very hard to raise money and make things possible for the students to succeed. Most of the band programs that I have been in contact with over the past 30 years have had to raise most of their funding on their own to buy things for the schools music programs.

The band also performs at athletic events to support the school and athletic teams.

-- Posted by Oldone1959 on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 9:26 AM

Leo- In terms of the grades, from what I have been told, the kids do not have to meet the grade requirements that athletes do, because they are also in a band class.

esb431- Nowherein the posting was a negative comment about The Band made. I remember watching them when my kids were in school and they are fantastic. My only concern was the inordinate amount of hours they spend practicing and the equality of funding both all extra-curricular activities.

In looking at the IHSAA website, the sports teams in classes, Northview being at the Top in 4A,competes against nearly 100 teams. The sports teams in class do not get to finish 2nd or 3rd and continue to move on in their tournament.

Oldone1959- The band boosters are very hard workers and passionate about the band. How many actually buys instruments compared to renting them? I understand that they are there to support the athletic teams, but it is only for football and basketball, where they are also running concessions.

sI appreciate what the band does in terms of state champinships, but let's be realistic about fundraising, practice times, and grades.

-- Posted by Ron Archer on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 10:04 AM

I am a parent of a Northview Guard member as well as a football player. I am a booster member for both sports and band. I pay fees for both my children to participate in the programs they enjoy. I agree it seems as if there are a lot of fundraisers for the band. You need to realize that you have almost 200 kids participating at one time in one activity, you will see a lot of people selling the same thing. It is not a requirement to participate in these fundraisers; they are a way to keep the cost down for the parents and sometimes students who are paying their band fees. The band program has done very well to keep the cost of band expenses to a minimal. In the last several years the band fees have not raised, and with the current state of the economy you know this is not an easy task. The band/guard booster program does seem over whelming when they participate in functions, but you have to realize we are just like any other parent we support our kids, it just so happens there are so many students involved. As for the comment about do these kids have to meet grade requirements? First of all if you've ever heard Mr. Medworth's speech before the first day of school you would not ask that, second of all why don't you ask the 2010 graduating class valedictorians and salutatorian? (All three are were band members.) But yes these members follow the same guidelines as all other students in Clay Community Schools for extra curricular activities. As for the why athletic programs do not run the concessions during football and basketball games, I would guess that it is because their children are playing at that time and I remember having to beg people to help in concessions when my son played in middle school. Don't bash the band and its supporters because the number of people is larger than the athletic team. There isn't a student athlete or student band member involved at that school that doesn't work hard. If you don't support the band program, don't vote for this gracious grant. If you do however support all the kids who spend an enormous amount of their time improving themselves, setting and meeting goals and becoming better people because some band booster supported them and sold a hot dog at a football game then please go vote for this grant and everyone involved with NMK greatly appreciates your support.

-- Posted by LifeLongNBrazil on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 10:33 AM


Granted, with a large number of kids in band, not 200, but a large number, it will seem that way. But how many fundraisers are needed. I would love to see a list of how many they actually do. Unless I am mistaken, there is not a participation fee for sports or band. The kids do work very hard in both sports and band. I agree that Mr. Medworth is a master motivator. I do not agree however, that the kids in band are held to the same standard. My friend lives next door to a band student and said that the student has a lot of trouble passing classes in school, yet he is still allowed to participate and expected to be at band. I support the band, as I have stated from my first posting, all I want to see for all kids is equality. Everyone else is taking as band bashing, when in fact it should be kid supporting. If you cannot see the equality issue, then you are either blind or do not want to face the facts.

-- Posted by Ron Archer on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 12:28 PM

Yep. It wasn't a popular post electriceye. Again, I appreciate the fact you are asking legitimate questions. And the fact that some people get offended by some simple questions is too bad. We live in the land of the offended.

-- Posted by Jed on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 12:35 PM

As a past band/guard member I think I may have a different perspective. What did I learn from being a part of this group?






*Time Management


*Strong Work Ethic

...and I could go on and on. Being a part of a group that won 1st in the State and 3rd in the Nation, and being able to state all of the above to potential employers during job interviews, is priceless. It is unfortunate that not many of our athletes get to say that about their participation. After my parents, the Medworths had the greatest positive influence on my life. It is unfortunate that not many of our athletes get to say that about their coaches.

How much did it cost to participate?

I don't know and 25 years later it really doesn't matter

-- Posted by MM85 on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 12:45 PM


I completely agree that you have learned all of those things. I happy that you accomplished those things in band. I am without doubt that the Medworths have influenced so many kids. I remember way back when I was in school and Coaches like Mr. Jim Buell and Mr. Richard Lockhart were tremendous influences on me. What coaches at the school today have that impact? The problem lies in the amount of time allowed to practice and the restrictions that are placed on athletics. If cost is not an issue, then why fundraise? Athletics have to have a safe field, floor, and equipment that is safety first. Funding for these kids, which is larger than that of the band, is constantly reduced. The band can practice anywhere, anytime, and safety (other than the guard when throwing flags and rifles) is never an issue. Again, equality among the masses, that is all that is asked. What is expected of one group, should be the same as the others?

-- Posted by Ron Archer on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 1:16 PM

I cannot believe that someone has used this article to start a debate on the fairness of programs at the schools. I am sure all of us can come up with issues with each program and keep arguing it on here, but this was meant to be an article to get the word out to the community that the band/guard needed help winning this contest! Pepsi is doing a wonderful thing and Northview Band deserves some respect and votes. Electiceye should be ashamed of theirself!

I hope everyone can ignore all of this ridiculous postings by electriceye and keep in mind the true meaning of this article.

We are blessed enough to have a wonderful band/guard that have entertained this community for years. We are blessed enough to have people like the Medworths that have devoted countless hours to these kids and teach great work ethic and morals that some of these kids would never learn at home. Our children and our school is blessed to have such a supportive parental system such as the Band Boosters.

Please, let's keep future postings postive and support this program and the kids involved.

-- Posted by funnynurse on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 2:01 PM


Once again, someone has missed the entire point of the posting. I am glad that the band has this opportunity. I have voted for them 10 times each day. Do you not agree that there should be equality? Perhaps knowing the facts of how things go is a good thing. Perhaps these postings are being used to get people more passionate about defending the band. Perhaps now, people will get out and vote for NMK. I have been a band booster for years, and since I am now out of it, I can see things from a different perspective. Things are only considered ridiculous when it points out a glaring flaw in the system. Don't judge words based on your individualized feelings. I just want to people to see the broad scope.

-- Posted by Ron Archer on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 2:22 PM

electriceye -- just to clarify information... there are exactly 200 band and guard members this year.

-- Posted by proudparent2010 on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 3:48 PM

Yes, there is a fee to participate in marching band competitions. It is usually around 200 dollars.

-- Posted by cc225 on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 3:59 PM

And at Clay City, the fee is 200 dollars to enter the program.

-- Posted by cc225 on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 4:01 PM

Wow I can't believe that there are so many posts that don't have anything to do with the article. Equality is that what you are talking about electiceye. Well let's touch on that a little bit. My son has played basketball, football, golf and wrestled. He went to every practice and worked just as hard as everyone else but yet he didn't get to play all of the time. Why would that be? Oh that is because if you are not the best around here and the coaches don't think you can bring home a championship then you just don't play. How equal is that? I see band kids everyday practicing and playing instruments and when it comes time for a performance they ALL participate. I think this is a great grant and I pray that they receive it. Every extra cirricular activity has fund raisers to help pay for bus rides to games and uniforms. The band has uniforms that need to be cleaned that cost money. The athletic dept just has mom's like me wash the uniforms and we don't charge for that. Don't get on here and talk about equality to me when my son did not get to play like he wanted to and worked just as hard as the guy out on the field, court, course, or mat. I really don't see any other sport at Northview bringing home any state trophies. Also to clarify something too my son was in band and you don't just rent an instrument you make payments on it to buy it. There are flaws in every system and it is ridiculous when you get on here and bash one particular group because they sat down and took the time to apply for a grant. I have looked on the Pepsi website and there are grants for everything. So Charlie Jackson out at Northview could have applied for one for the athletic department but I don't see anyone on here griping that he didn't do that.

-- Posted by time2growup on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 4:54 PM

I think that I have made it clear that there is not band bashing in any post that I have made. Band is different from athletics in this sense. If a kid is not good at playing an instrument, then he simple marches and doesn't really play. In athletics, basketball has 5 playing at a time, football has 11, golf is based simply on scoring in practice, wrestling is determined by wrestleoffs, baseball and softball have 9, volleyball has 6, and tennis determined by challenges. Kids get a chance I would think everyday in practice, if they are not good enough to play, then that is part of it. This post has nothing to do with being fair to one person. As usual, several of you are making points that have no basis. If you can go to any post that I have made where I have said anything negative about the band, the kids in band, or the people in charge of it, then you can prove me wrong. If the roles were reversed in a sense that all of the athletes parents united and tried to run everything, what would you think then?

-- Posted by Ron Archer on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 6:16 PM

The point is, electriceye, that this article had nothing to do with athletics. I have never seen anyone post negative comments on an article about any sporting event, so why do this to an article that had a good purpose.

I think most of us are sticking to the point---support the band in this contest.

-- Posted by funnynurse on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 9:04 PM

Final Time, At No Point Have I Said Anything Negative About Band. Can't anyone get the point made. EQUALITY IS ALL THAT I WAS POINTING OUT!!!

-- Posted by Ron Archer on Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 10:57 PM

I said it before and I will say it again. There are other grants that Pepsi is putting out so any one of the coaches for any of the sports could have easily applied but they didn't.

-- Posted by time2growup on Fri, Jun 18, 2010, at 9:01 AM

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