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Meth lab found, three arrested

Tuesday, October 19, 2010

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Samuel Hull
Three Clay County men are in custody on allegations of operating a meth lab in northwest Clay County.

According to the limited information provided by the Clay County Sheriff's Department, suspicious activity was reported at an undisclosed location on Private Road 1499 North, Brazil, Tuesday afternoon.

Allegedly, without permission, three men, Paul Vogel, 25, and Bradley Vogel 22, whom officials confirmed are related, and Samuel Hull, 24, were reported seen carrying a cooler on to the property.

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Bradley Vogel
Upon arrival at the scene, CCSD deputies, with the assistance of members of the Indiana State Police and the Indiana Department of Natural Resources, discovered a methamphetamine lab.

Two of the men, Paul Vogel and Hull were taken into custody, while Bradley Vogel fled into a wooded area before being taken in to custody later.

The Indiana State Police Clandestine Lab Team was contacted to dismantle the lab, process it for evidence and clean up the area.

Jail officials confirmed all three suspects are currently in custody at the Clay County Justice Center, booked on preliminary felony charges of possession/use of legend drug, resisting law enforcement, trespass and manufacturing methamphetamine.

Each suspect faces a $25,000 cash bond (with no 10 percent allowed) and are waiting a formal case review by the Clay County's Prosecutor's Office for other potential charges and formal court proceedings.

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Paul Vogel
Further information was unavailable as of press time due to the ongoing investigation.


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3 typical visions of meth use..

#1- gauntly

#2- AHH! Alittle "tweeked"

#3- Normal

-- Posted by nurse92 on Tue, Oct 19, 2010, at 11:36 PM

lost souls, its sad.

-- Posted by otis66 on Wed, Oct 20, 2010, at 5:59 AM

Sam, Sam, Sam .. when will you ever learn? Be lucky you were in cuffs before your brother got there ..

You're father is a good man, too bad I can't say the same for your egg donor Mother. She's a POS and has taught you well.

Get your act together .. it isn't about YOU .. it's about being a man and a father for your kids. Is Meth really more important than your family?

Maybe this will give you enough time behind bars to think about what you're doing to yourself and those around you. No sympathy here.

-- Posted by Emmes on Wed, Oct 20, 2010, at 8:06 AM

Unfortunately, they will NEVER learn. This will be their life because it is all they know...see kids why an education is so VERY important!!!!! Look at these faces and learn from them...DRUGS WILL GET YOU INTO TROUBLE OR EVEN KILL YOU!!!!!

-- Posted by clgruener on Wed, Oct 20, 2010, at 8:22 AM

OMG! Our neighborhood out here used to be so quiet and wonderful and then that bunch moved in with all their junk cars! Now to find out a meth lab is in our neighborhood, is no where safe from these types? Am I profiling? Heck yes I am!

-- Posted by Jolly on Wed, Oct 20, 2010, at 8:51 AM

Where the heck is Private Road 1499 North? Yesterday I saw three police cars parked out by the bridge on Perth Road; North of Rio Grande. I have a difficult time finding these roads with these new names.

-- Posted by My opinion counts on Wed, Oct 20, 2010, at 11:11 AM

Dear JOLLY profiler-- PLEASE PLEASE I encourage you have all the facts before you post!! You did read in the paper that these men were trespassing right???? That means they DID NOT have permission to be where they were. In case you are not aware of the unfortunate truth-- drug use (ESPECIALLY in rural areas)is and has been on the rise for many years. I am CERTAIN you have NEVER been taken advantage of by anyone, huh? Also, I am sure you have never come in contact with family/friends who have had the evilness of addiction touch their lives. If not, you need to open your eyes- OR continue to live in denial!! YOUR CHOICE!!!! In case you wondered--

-- Posted by anurse1102 on Wed, Oct 20, 2010, at 11:19 AM

ANURSE .. you're right. They were trespassing. I, too, found it amusing JOLLY posted "that bunch", considering I know who owns the land. He doesn't have "junk cars" or a criminal record. Quite the opposite, in fact.

MOC - Pvt Rd 1499 N is quite a ways NW of Brazil. Out in the toolies.

-- Posted by Emmes on Wed, Oct 20, 2010, at 12:00 PM

Question Emmes, Are the Toolies anywhere close to the pukeweeds?

-- Posted by Cardonia Redneck on Wed, Oct 20, 2010, at 12:58 PM

anurse and emmes, how do you know who I was refering to? And your right, I haven't been taken advantage of or came in contact with people like these and I plan on keeping it that way. There is a level of people out there that most of us do not associate with and do not move into areas where it is, so to have them invade our quiet lifestyle is not acceptable.

-- Posted by Jolly on Wed, Oct 20, 2010, at 1:56 PM

If Hull doesn't stop now, I'll give him 'til 30. And that's pushing it.

Drugs kill.

Vogel boys? Tsk-Tsk

-- Posted by Dagnabbitt on Wed, Oct 20, 2010, at 2:39 PM

There, their, they're. And it's not dose, it's does. Lesson over.

-- Posted by I. M. Lee Thall, Esq. on Wed, Oct 20, 2010, at 3:55 PM

Use proper sentences and full and proper spelling of words before trying to post. No one takes you seriously if you can't communicate well.

-- Posted by newtoo on Wed, Oct 20, 2010, at 4:22 PM

My goodness, the look on Samuel Hull's face tells a lot more than a story ever could. It's sad that anybody could let themselves become such a slave to a chemical that at 24 years old you look so hopeless. Hopefully a stay in prison will help put things in perspective for him. I know that people are going to defend him, that is what family and friends are suppose to do. I just hope that some of those people that come out on his side now that he is in trouble will be there when he gets out to see that he gets the help that he obviously needs.

-- Posted by snow on Wed, Oct 20, 2010, at 4:36 PM

I am actually vesy close to sam hull and can say that he is still a good person and father. Dont understand how someone thinks they can judge someone they never even met bc they are struggling w a very serious problem. Everyone has their flaws. Addiction gains a strong hold on a person and controls more of their lives than they realize. Putting them down only puts a more negative impact on their lives. And as far as not associating w users, it is not always obvious someone is struggling with addiction so I wouldnt sit to high on that horse. Sam knows hes made a mistake and has to face what hes lost. Just bc hes done wrong doesnt mean he cant realize this. And during his time in jail, hopefully he can overcome his addiction and find who he is. And he has people that, although are disappointed and very upset w him, are still going to encourage him to do better.

-- Posted by Dmc24 on Wed, Oct 20, 2010, at 7:01 PM

Yea, Sammy is a wonderful father and role model for his kid(s). Maybe Clay County could make him the Father of the Year.

-- Posted by I. M. Lee Thall, Esq. on Wed, Oct 20, 2010, at 8:23 PM

I don't normally comment on anything. I will say that I do know the Vogel boys and they are very capable of having a much better life. They truly have been drawn into an evil addiction. I know first hand what this stuff can do to someone and I was lucky enough to have family members who saw the signs and never gave up on me and have been clean for over 18 years. This epidemic is way worse now than back then. They were not raised this way and I know their family/parents are truly heartbroken over this. My hope is that all three of them get the help they need, while paying for their crime, and are able to overcome this addiction. Prayers to them and their families.

-- Posted by 2much2handle on Wed, Oct 20, 2010, at 8:48 PM

I am curious if Mr. Hull is any relation to the "Hulls" that worked at Morris Mfg.?

-- Posted by th1953 on Wed, Oct 20, 2010, at 9:27 PM

I don't feel sorry for grown men. Sure they might have an addiction, but I feel the draw of money for these unemployed men was stronger than any addiction. I don't know the Hull man, but I do know the Vogels and they need the money being out of work and not wanting to look for work. Their mother works her fingers to the bone, the father is worthless, womanizer, wife beater, unemployed. These men didn't take after their mother! Its too bad, no matter what you grow up in, you always have the oppertunity to make something of yourself. They chose not too.

-- Posted by BTruth1958 on Wed, Oct 20, 2010, at 9:32 PM

HAHAHAHA!!! Bye bye, meth heads!!! Look at the sunny side of your problem! With your missing and roting teeth. The dude who makes you their Bit&* in jail. Shouldn't have that much trouble knocking your teeth out! haha! 3 down 5000 to go! Thank You C.C.S.D.!!!!!!!

-- Posted by ClueGlue on Wed, Oct 20, 2010, at 10:27 PM

DMC24, John Wayne Gacy was a nice guy; but, just like Mr. Hull, he was not a "good person". Mr. Gacy was a clown at kid's parties and was a good employee and I am sure was a great son. That being said, it does not belie the fact that he was a serial killer...or should I say he was addicted to killing. I do not know Mr. Hull or Messrs. Vogel, nor did I know Mr. Gacy, but I can tell you, if proven guilty, they are not good people. That is what is so lacking in today's society....common sense. I am starting to think I need to say uncommon sense.

Thall - thanks for the grammar lesson. That is exactly what we need. Seriously!!! I am so done with the use of IMO, LOL, IDK, LMAO, : ), etc.

-- Posted by madman36 on Thu, Oct 21, 2010, at 7:05 AM

SNOW - you couldn't be more right.

DAG - I agree with your assessment. Let's hope this is the jailtime that will turn his life around.

LEE - You beat me to the punch.

CLUE - Get one.

As for getting these guys help for their addiction, they're grown. Their families can't force them into treatment, they can only hope (and pray) they seek help themselves.

I, for one, hope Sam does just that .. for his kids' sake. He's young enough to turn his life around.

-- Posted by Emmes on Thu, Oct 21, 2010, at 8:22 AM

Almost forgot .. CARDONIA .. YES! It is. ; )

-- Posted by Emmes on Thu, Oct 21, 2010, at 8:23 AM

JOLLY - your comment was so generalized, it could have been any one of us, but considering the article mentioned an undisclosed location on Private Road 1499 N .. your comment: "that bunch moved in with all their junk cars" gave ME the impression you were talking about the same location.

-- Posted by Emmes on Thu, Oct 21, 2010, at 8:28 AM

Emmes- sorry you are confused:) I was speaking about the general area around PR 1499N now, go south about a 1/4 of a mile and you will see!!! That place is generating that kind of activity and we are heartsick!

-- Posted by Jolly on Thu, Oct 21, 2010, at 8:39 AM

Great job catching another meth lab C.C.S.D. and I.S.P. Sorry that your hard work will only amount to a plea with the worthless prosecutor.

If the family of the person using has no idea that he or she is using, it is out of their control. The ONLY way to get a family member to stop using is to FORCE it out of their lives. You CANNOT pray him or her out of this type of addiction. Something tramatic HAS to happen for them to see that they are slowly killing themselves. Most people don't know that they have to get involved.

-- Posted by sandman442 on Thu, Oct 21, 2010, at 10:10 AM

Amen, SANDMAN.

JOLLY .. I'm sorry this happened so close to your property. Unfortunately, even the nicest of neighborhoods house criminals ..

-- Posted by Emmes on Thu, Oct 21, 2010, at 6:22 PM

I had the grave misfortune of living around the Hull family, especially his poor excuse of a father...all I can say is SUCKS TO BE YOU, HULL!!! :)

-- Posted by IndiMa06 on Mon, Oct 25, 2010, at 1:20 PM

INDIMA06 - not sure whose father you're talking about, but Sam's father is nothing like you mention. It's obvious you don't know these Hull's.

-- Posted by Emmes on Sat, Dec 18, 2010, at 12:25 AM


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