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Possible smoking ordinance discussed

Thursday, December 9, 2010

Steve Lamb
Although it was not a part of the official agenda, the potential for an indoor smoking ban ordinance brought residents to Wednesday's meeting of the Common Council of the City of Brazil.

Van Buren Township resident Walter Young commented that the opportunity for people to make their own decisions is slowly being taken away.

"I thought Hitler died years ago, but apparently his descendents are alive and wanting to tell people what they can and can't do with their own lives," Young said. "I believe it should be up to the restaurant owners to decide whether or not to allow smoking in their establishments."

The proposed ordinance, which has not been drafted, was brought to the council during its November meeting by Clay County Tobacco Coalition Director Kandace Brown, along with results from a public opinion poll conducted by the Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis (IUPUI) Survey Research Center. The proposal included prohibiting smoking in all workplaces, including restaurants, bars and private clubs.

Bounty Lounge Owner Jeff Warren told the council Wednesday he believed in establishments where a person must be at least 21 to enter, like his business, the decision should be left to the customers themselves on whether or not to smoke.

"If a business has patrons under the age of 18 or 21, then I think there should be smoking and non-smoking sections," he said. "However, in establishments like mine, where you have to be 21 to be in there and about 90 percent of my customers smoke, they are all adults and should be able to make their own decisions."

Former Clay County Health Department Public Health Nurse Diane Dierks said a major purpose of the proposed ordinance is to protect the employees of area business that allow smoking.

"It's basically to help protect the employees of these establishments from the dangers of second-hand smoke," Dierks said.

Young responded, "There are many waiters and waitress who work in the smoking sections who smoke themselves and request to be in that specific section."

Mayor Ann Bradshaw said she has had an influx of calls on both sides of the issue, adding extra consideration as to how local business owners feel about the ordinance itself -- and how they think businesses will be affected -- must be taken.

Council President Steve Lamb said he has attempted to contact 24 local business owners, including those which are already smoke-free to get a feel for the situation.

"So far, I have only had nine responses, but seven of those said they would not support a smoking ban," Lamb said. "I even had an owner of a non-smoking establishment say they would go back to allowing smoking if they could because it has had an adverse effect on that particular business. So obviously, we have to take a closer look at just how this could affect business within the city limits."

In other business during Wednesday's meeting, the council:

* Approved corrections on the 2011 salary ordinances for police, fire and city employees as minor miscalculations were made in some salaries and the 14th year of experience off the pay scale for firefighters,

* Approved an additional appropriation of $87,548 out of the Rainy Day Fund for personal services, capital outlays and other services and charges, along with a separate appropriation of $70,000 in the Cumulative Capital Development Fund for capital outlays. In addition, a total of $348,416 in reductions was approved in the General Fund, $312,116 of which was Public Safety Local Option Income Tax monies that was placed into its own fund, while the remaining $36,300 was to balance out the 2011 budget,

* Passed an ordinance allowing a transfer of $24,000 from the General Fund to the Utility Department Fund to allow the Water Department to purchase a water stop machine, which allows the detection of leaks in a line to be more precise,

* Approved an ordinance setting the speed limit in city parks at 15 miles per hour. While that is the speed limit currently posted, conflicting ordinances had been discovered setting the limit at both 5 and 15 miles per hour, and

* Selected Sam Glover to be president of the council and Brad Deal as vice president for 2011, along with voting to keep meetings at 7 p.m., on the second Wednesday of each month.

In addition, the council set a special meeting for 4 p.m., Wednesday, Dec. 22, for the purposes of discussing the animal control contract.

The next regular meeting of the Common Council of the City of Brazil will be 7 p.m., Wednesday, Jan. 12, 2011. All meetings are conducted in the Council Chambers at City Hall.

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I don't smoke & never have but I don't think a smoker should be treated like they have the plague, either.

-- Posted by th1953 on Thu, Dec 9, 2010, at 10:30 PM

Seems that local business' opinion and responses to Lambs inquiries are in contrast to the "poll" that Kandace Brown touted. Hmmm. Truth always comes out on libs that seek to think for us underlings. Kandace, move to Bloomington and I'm sure you will be in your own kind of company. Also leave the private clubs alone, they have a hard enough time raising a buck to good things in this town. I'm sure the idiot commander of the VFW will agree to non smoking though...

-- Posted by wtfizdat on Thu, Dec 9, 2010, at 11:01 PM

It's typically not the plague smokers end up with ... it's heart and lung diseases ... cancer ... I don't go in establishments that allow smoking, but they should have the choice. If they do not want my business that's fine. Smoke'em if you got'em.

-- Posted by Gunslinger on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 7:44 AM

I totaly agree with wtfizdat. A Monkey could do a better job as commander of the VFW. His rein of dictatorship has ruined that fine club.

-- Posted by (B_b) is an idiot !! on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 8:45 AM

me not 2 smart so if gubment say smoking bad than i shuld not smoke...

-- Posted by no1special on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 11:06 AM

smoked for 30 yrs and just put them down 3yrs ago but i will not stop going in public places because there is smoking. I think it is silly to treat smokers like the plaque. (th1953 I agree) jeff and any other owner should be able to control what they want to have smoking or non, they own the business and run it and pay to keep it up so they have the right. I will not stop going anyplace just because there could be someone there enjoying a smoke... Sorry but just seems like a little to much control.

-- Posted by computerdx on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 4:06 PM

I used to smoke. I think that smoking in public places should be banned. Smoke in your car and house if you want but the rest of us who do not should not have to be subjected to it. Kandace keep doing what you are doing. I think you are doing a great job.

-- Posted by harleyrider on Fri, Dec 10, 2010, at 5:23 PM

Put the ban on cell phone in public and see the non-smokers come to the aid of allowing them, ban cell phone in public, keep the smoking.

-- Posted by smallguysmalltown on Sat, Dec 11, 2010, at 8:10 AM

If all establishments go non-smoking then there is no problem Non-smoker's get clean air and smoker's get to live longer

most smoker's prefer to eat in a non-smoking restaurant

this business to have non- smoking sections is a joke

people still inhale the smoke

The joke is now you have a table 3 feet away that is smoking no common sense

Choices go outside like most sensible states who have banned smoking and if that is not your choice go to the hospitals where people are dying from lung cancer

-- Posted by 1dogbob on Sun, Dec 12, 2010, at 10:26 AM

I think it should be uup to the owners. If you dont want to go were they all smoking dont. But if you smoke & want to go eat were you can you should be able to

-- Posted by kd323 on Mon, Dec 13, 2010, at 10:32 AM

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