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Board approves suspension

Thursday, March 10, 2011

Kim Tucker
Editor's Note: The leaked question was not posted on the Internet. Rather, the question was cut and pasted into an e-mail.

A Clay Community School Corporation (CCSC) teacher received a half-day suspension with pay after an incident involving a leaked question from the Indiana Statewide Testing for Educational Progress-Plus (ISTEP+).

The CCSC school board approved the measure at its Thursday meeting.

According to information provided by CCSC administrative officials, the incident was related ISTEP+ test security.

"There is a situation that is being investigated," CCSC Interim Supt. Kim Tucker said.

Tucker said she was notified last week that Evelyn Greenwood, who teaches physical education at East Side Elementary and Meridian Elementary, saw the item on Facebook.

The item, a question from the ISTEP+ eighth-grade language arts testing manual, was somehow leaked on Facebook. Reports stated several educators statewide informed the Indiana Department of Education of seeing the question last week.

After seeing the question on Facebook, Tucker said Greenwood "cut and pasted" the question into an e-mail. Greenwood never posted anything on Facebook.

"She wasn't intending to put students at an unfair advantage," Tucker said. "She was looking at a question and making a political comment.

"The corporation is working with the (Indiana) Department of Education (IDOE) to determine the level of seriousness for that type of breach."

She added she has been in touch with IDOE Director of Assessment Wes Bruce regarding the matter.

The suspension was implemented March 2.

Tucker said Indiana Superintendent of Public Instruction Tony Bennett informed schools statewide Thursday the state is in the process of investigating the leaked question.

"We're not done with the situation," Tucker said.

According to reports, the teaching licenses of those who posted the question online could be revoked.

Reports also stated Bennett has said several school corporations were involved in the security breach, but no criminal action was expected.

In addition, no discussion has taken place linking the local incident to the investigation.

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Half a day of vacation with pay? Ccsc has no morals. What would the punishment be had a student accessed a test question and distributed it to other students?

-- Posted by bartpeterson24 on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 3:55 AM

Why not just put her on that infamous "two-hour delay"?

I'm not sure what activities generate a suspension and what doesn't, but I would think that a full-day suspension would be the very least one could get.

A half-day? Really?

The State says this is something that has jeopardized her teaching license, but the local jurisdiction says a half-day?...I can't make sense of this. Bart is right, if this had been a student, I know the punishment would have been much worse.

-- Posted by ClayCountyGuy on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 7:25 AM

tulie32, regardless of your feelings about this test, the validity of it is not the question here. It is the integrity of the teacher. I agree, teachers need all the help and support they can get from parents, but this is not the issue in this instance.

-- Posted by ClayCountyGuy on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 7:28 AM

I never get any form of suspensions with pay, isn't that usually called a vacation? How is it punishment to pay someone not to work?

-- Posted by localgal on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 7:33 AM

The article seems unclear to me whether she actually typed out the question herself or simply forwarded what someone else had posted.

-- Posted by brazilian on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 7:43 AM

It says she cut & pasted it into an e-mail. She did not type it out nor did she put it on Facebook. Still probably not wise to do anything till after the testing was completed.

-- Posted by indianamama on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 9:02 AM

I think most of you did miss the point of the article. She DID NOT POST the question, she seen the question then used the forwarding/share button. She was looking for validation about the question and where it came from. I think this is more an issue of not knowing how to use Facebook. If you see something in question, hover to the right of the little box where you see an X, click, then there is an entire menu of items such as - 'remove post' 'report post'. She would have been better to report the post, then remove it. A copy & paste (or snap shot)to the school board would probably have been appropriate too. I personally believe any time off for her is wrong, I think SSCS or the state would do better giving social media training classes.

-- Posted by Lacey62 on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 9:14 AM

Well I do say I am wrong about part of my response, should have read better myself. She did copy & paste the question into an email then forwarded. The question then lays in who did she email it too? I believe it should have gone directly to her superiors for questions. So maybe the time off is appropriate. I still believe social media education is relevant.

-- Posted by Lacey62 on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 9:16 AM

indianamamma, you are correct. When I first read this last night, I believe it said "used a writing tool" to send the message to others and didn't reference an e-mail at all. I should've read the article again! :)

-- Posted by brazilian on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 9:17 AM

The whole system is a joke. I hope I never try to verify anything on a public site and forward it to someone who might now if it is real!

Hmmm, what was the politcal comment?

The item, a question from the ISTEP+ eighth-grade language arts testing manual. I wonder if it was the "If a glib is a bird...what is a glib?" question?

Opps said too much... I hear CCSC and "short-bus" patrol knocking on my door along with Master Daniels!

-- Posted by WickedSpring64 on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 9:49 AM

In the Terre Haute paper it lists the question. After reading the question, why in the world are we leaving this up to our children? The question is completely political. I feel she has been made an example of enough. Her name is posted every where and she had to leave 1/2 day for repeating something somoeone else posted. REALLY? This whole situation is stupid if you ask me. I am sure there are real issues the schools could be looking into.

-- Posted by terrehautemom1 on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 9:52 AM

I think one thing that we are not looking into far enough is the fact that there are standards and rules that teachers must follow. Test security is at upmost importance. "Copy and Pasting" a standardized test question into an e-mail and distributing it is wrong. Only if the e-mail was sent to direct superiors would this even be mildly appropriate. Wait until the test is over to make your political points, thats fine. According to other reports the entire debacle cost 83,000 students' answeres to this test question to be thrown out due to validitiy questions. The state will not recover that money already paid to the test vendor...its gone and we now have nothing to show for it. We are in trying times politically, not everyone agrees with what is going on at any level, but that does not make it ok to completely break from established professional guidelines.

The question is not political. It was written 2-3 years ago and went through multiple screenings, just as every other question, before being placed on this years ISTEP+ test.

-- Posted by GOPman on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 9:59 AM

Eighth-grade ISTEP writing prompt:

Your school has just announced a program that will allow a group of eighth graders from your class to attend high school anywhere in the United States. You will have all of your expenses paid for by a special scholarship program.

Write a persuasive essay to your school's selection committee explaining why you should be chosen and where you would like to go to high school. In your persuasive essay, tell about the personal qualities you have that would make you a good choice.

Explain why you want to go to high school in the town or city you have chosen.

After reading this, I can see why the test scores are so low! This is the type of question that would make most students cringe in dispair.

They should have at least changed it to your favorite celeb, sports team, historical figure, etc. What do kids know about schools outside the area or states for that matter? I though the purpose was to engage the child and evaluate the skills.

Rotten topics get rotten responses. I guess ISTEP has never figured that out.

-- Posted by WickedSpring64 on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 10:14 AM

Let's see... Evelyn Greenwood is a gymn teacher not an 8th grade language arts teacher, who saw a supossed question on FaceBook??? She cut and pasted it to something??? Now SHE is in trouble with her job??? This does NOT make any sense??? What is her crime here???? Does your boss have the right to monitor your thoughts and opinions on FaceBook???? What country do we live in??? She is NOT accused of using this question to help any student with ISTEP but is suspended for having something to say about something she SAW on Facebook and is now being investigated??? I guess somebody needs to explain this because I just don't see where she did a wrong here?????

-- Posted by parent in Brazil on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 12:58 PM

Yes, parent in Brazil; it seems they do. An attorney with the State Attorney General's office in Indianaplis was fired recently for making a remark on TWITTER pertaining to his job.

-- Posted by Dagnabbit on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 1:09 PM

Point is she is NOT even a 8th grade langauge arts teacher but a gymn teacher who sent an email! About something she SAW on Facebook, SHE did NOT put it there! I think this is ridiculous!! What are they going to censor next! I think this is a violation of her privacy and freedom of speech!!!

-- Posted by parent in Brazil on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 1:25 PM

I would have to agree with parent in Brazil. This does seem silly.

-- Posted by terrehautemom1 on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 1:33 PM

The conversation is once again way off base. State policy is clear, breach of test security has ramifications. If you do not agree with your employer's or governing body's rules, you do not have to work there. This is about maintaining a level of professionalism that was broken. It's cut and dry.

I know that my employer can view my Facebook or Twitter account. I could do any number of things on either account that could get me fired. Social media is now a strong enough part of our society that our actions on these website have consequences. I'd venture to say that most of us could be fired from our jobs for inappropriate actions or posts on Facebook or Twitter.

-- Posted by GOPman on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 2:16 PM

I must say something here. She may have broken some security rule but what about all of the kids that are out there in schools bullying kids on a daily basis and there is nothing done about it. What about the kids that slam and make fun of other kids on Facebook. Why are they not getting in trouble for that? She forwarded this to someone to let them know it was posted on Facebook and now she is the one in trouble. Just like everything with Government there are other issues out there that are more important than this.

-- Posted by time2growup on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 2:37 PM

I for one would not want to see Evelyn removed as a teacher. She is an amazing person and actually loves our children. It would be a sad day in Clay County if she were to be removed as a daily influence. Our school system needs more people like her.

This sleeping giant called America needs to wake up!

-- Posted by Sonshine77 on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 4:24 PM

really? GOPman...I guess we see where your sense of right and wrong lies....I bet you voted for mitch and W too, didnt ya?....first off, the ISTEP test is stupid to begin with...and to think that a kid can go for four years with a 4.0 GPA, but fail this test and they dont get a diploma? ok..yeah right...and I wouldnt lead an AL quida cell to that school...this lady is an elementary PE teacher...and the test is 8th grade level...ok, so she saw it and sent it forward in an email...who was she emailing? was she trying to alert the state they had a compromised test?....and then to get suspended on top of it all...it makes me glad Im no longer in the clay community school district. For some reason the school boards in the past 15 years seem to forget that they arent omnipotent...hell, we havent had a good administrator since Jesse Pitts....

-- Posted by tony.bussing@gmail.com on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 4:51 PM

Ok, after reading this pitiful excuse for an article several times I decided to see what The TribStar printed on this incident. The Tribstar was much more informative on this incident and from what I can gather after reading both articles several times I was finally able to understand where this "copy & paste" e-mail was sent to. Mrs. Greenwood an elementary school PE instructor e-mailed what she had "SEEN" on Facebook to other educators that she knows. I realize she may have been wrong in doing this but what I don't understand is how her teaching license may be in jeopardy. She did not re-post the question, which if I read both articles correctly was a question for the "8TH GRADE" Language Arts not elementary students for which she is an instructor to. She sent an e-mail out of course the actual content of that e-mail has not been published so "WE" the public reading these articles still do not know what she said in this e-mail and I'm sure we never will because then we might actually be able to decide for ourselves if she was right or wrong.

I personally have never met Mrs. Greenwood but I have heard nothing but good things about her and that the students she deals with everyday love her. I hope that Mrs. Greenwood's teaching license is left alone and that this goes away very quickly.

I like what Mr.Bussing had to say about the ISTEP test the ISTEP test "is stupid to begin with...and to think that a kid can go for four years with a 4.0 GPA, but fail this test and they dont get a diploma" I took this test my Senior year of high school, my class was the test class for this worthless test and it doesn't sound as if it has gotten any better over the last 20+ years.

Mrs. Greenwood I wish you the best I think you are a scapegoat for a much bigger problem with in the stat of Indian and the Clay Community school system.

-- Posted by Brazilmom on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 6:12 PM

After reading Trib we get the rest of the story. Seems the only question that was leaked reads like a political poll of 8th graders as to which school they would like to attend given their choice. Some brave individual leaked the question to expose it. Hence if vouchers get passed then 8th graders and others have a choice on how and where the gov dollars are spent.So they are trying to silence them by threatening to revoke thier teaching license. Do not think a political poll belongs on a ISTEP test do you? The question was asking them to write an essay about where they would to go to school given a choice. Seems to me a violation of the privacy of 8th graders taking the test! Mrs. Greenwood only found it and took an interest in it, why would she not be interested? She is a teacher. She is a gymn teacher and a good one but there are no ISTEP questions about gymn! This was a political poll of 8th graders disguised as an ISTEP question! Of course they would not want that leaked!!!

-- Posted by parent in Brazil on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 6:40 PM

A half day off with pay is a reward, what are we going to do if she does this again give her a week with pay, maybe buy her a ticket to Flordia to enjoy her time off

-- Posted by racerdp99 on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 7:49 PM

This teacher did not spread this over the internet but e-mailed her teacher friends about it. You are being ridiculous to think that is some kind of huge threat to the ISTEP test. It is to write an essay about this subject I don't even see how knowing that would be an unfair advantage as there is no right or wrong answer, they have to write an essay.

The question is ridiculous and so are the allegations!!!

-- Posted by parent in Brazil on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 8:26 PM

Does it say anywhere that she said, she had a problem with her bosses politics?? Or that she

compromised the test in anyway? NOOOOO it does not, and this is America if she did not agree with her bosses politics so what?? She did NOT post this thing, she did not send it to the public either, seems she was bringing it to attention of her fellow teachers!! SO YOU THINK SHE SHOULD BE HANGED??? freedom of opinion used to be:allowed in this country??? You want to take that away??? Do you even know what her opinion is??? NOOOO!

But yet you can get on here and have an opinion on her!! When you DON"T even know what her opinion is???? Ya that really makes a lot of sense!!!

-- Posted by parent in Brazil on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 8:38 PM

OK...what I am still at a loss of is:

I am not so sure I agree that she should have been suspended...but that aside...if the CCSC saw fit to suspend her for a half day why do so WITH PAY.

Would love to see something posted here by CCSC explaining that one.

You punish someone with a suspension if you believe they did wrong. If someone does wrong how does a suspension (vacation) away from work hurt them. I am hoping there is something here not fully explained. Is this a "UNION" thing dictating this insane "Punishment?"

-- Posted by baginss on Fri, Mar 11, 2011, at 9:47 PM

This town is full of judges, jurors, and executioners.

-- Posted by luvmylife9295 on Sat, Mar 12, 2011, at 12:07 AM