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Crews begin cleanup, inspection of park

Tuesday, July 5, 2011

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Cumberland Valley Shows associates worked through Monday evening to tear down much of their carnival operation following the conclusion of the Rotary Club of Brazil's annual 4th of July Celebration. Jason Moon Photo. [Order this photo]
There wasn't much standing Tuesday morning.

Organizers with Cumberland Valley Shows worked through Monday night to tear down its operation following the Rotary Club of Brazil's annual 4th of July Celebration.

Brazil City Parks Superintendent Bill Houck told The Brazil Times he expects the final remnants of the carnival will be out of the city by Wednesday.

But then the real work begins.

Houck said city parks associates will start the task of re-seeding and re-strawing the park as soon as possible.

"It may take a couple of weeks," Houck said. "The main thing is filling in the ruts and grading it down."

Houck said the Rotary Club of Brazil had a group coming to Forest Park each morning picking up trash, which he added helped with the cleanup process.

Houck, who has been the City Parks Superintendent for seven years, said every year prior to the festival, he and a member of the Rotary Club conduct a pre- and post-inspection of the park. He said he anticipated the post-inspection would take place Wednesday.

"This is not much different from other years," Houck said.

He added the park would be "back to normal" by the Popcorn Festival of Clay County, scheduled for Sept. 30-Oct. 2.

"If we have enough rain," Houck said.


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It shouldn't have taken too long to tear down since half the rides werent in operation most of the time anyway. This was the worse carnival EVER. On the up side, the fireworks were good.

-- Posted by lifehasitsmoments on Tue, Jul 5, 2011, at 9:36 PM

I really enjoy the 4th of July Celebration and appreciate all the planning and hard work that Rotary members put into this event each year. The money that is raised through this event does so much good right here in our own community.

With that being said (and I do mean it sincerely), I tend to agree with the previous comment. This carnival was not up to the standards of what this event is supposed to be. I really question if the members of the Rotary club that negotiate the contract for the carnival, actually went and looked at this company before signing them. I honestly don't think they did.

If you just look at their website, or listen to their supposed reputation, I guess I could understand the flirtation with them. But surely you would go and see them in person, or talk to those who have dealt with them.

Did you know...CVS had their contract cancelled with the Bartholomew County Fair a couple of years ago for many of the same complaints that I heard this week; rides not functioning, and just the general state of the carnival, which looked neglected. And guess who replaced CVS at that fair? The very carnival, Burton Brothers, who we let go after last year.

Did you know...that their "signature piece" ride, the "High Energy", only ran as it was intended to run for one night? And that immediately following our event, it was being shipped to Michigan to another carnival who just took ownership of it?

Did you know...that even though there was plenty of empty spaces in the midway, that CVS still had at least a couple (if not several) of other pieces that they did not bring? Which seems curious to me, because even though I am not privy to the specific details of the contract, I'm sure there was a provision for "ticketed attractions" that must have been a bigger number than what has been required of other carnivals in the past, affording the Rotary Club to advertise on their website for many months now that CVS would provide "more and better" rides?

There is even more I could say CVS, but won't because I don't want to state things I can't prove. But rest assured, there are other factors that may force Rotary's hand sooner than they thought they would have too.

This was very dissapointing this year, and even though I'm only speaking for myself, I can tell you that many others have said the same thing.

I strongly encourage those Rotary members who can possibly affect a change to do so before irrepairable harm is done to this event. Which at one time was the place to be for the 4th of July in west central Indiana.

-- Posted by ClayCountyGuy on Tue, Jul 5, 2011, at 11:06 PM

Ditto to he 2 previous statements.As a grandma and person who has attended this event for over 50yrs I could not get an answer on the kiddy rides from the operators because they didn't speak english.I have a 2 yr old grandaughter I ride with and wanted to know if I needed a ticket to get on with her.Also there were rides broke down. Please understand our rotary and park volunteers are the best in my mind,I believe someone was misled about this carnival co.Hope we can find a better carnival next yr as I will still be supporting our great town.

-- Posted by clycogrl on Tue, Jul 5, 2011, at 11:26 PM

Here another DITTO. Very very disappointed in the carnival this year.

-- Posted by purehonesty on Wed, Jul 6, 2011, at 7:22 AM

I too agree it was a terrible carnival. I couldn't believe that several of the rides were not operating and no one was working on them!

My son-in-law was rudely treated by one of the "carnies". He simply asked if the next person in line to ride could sit with them since they were all together and was plenty of room and the guy went off on him like a rocket. Pitiful!

-- Posted by Jolly on Wed, Jul 6, 2011, at 8:35 AM

The carnival was bad. I could not believe had rude the carnies were. Trying to touch people and a clown cussing at little kids it was crazy.

-- Posted by kd323 on Wed, Jul 6, 2011, at 10:09 AM

From a Rotary member here, just want to clear something up. Yes, we did take a group to one of their shows to see it in person. We did have extensive talks with both the carnival operators and people who had experienced them and were in a position to know. Things looked good.

I'll speak personally here. If the rides are working, it doesn't seem to matter if the paint is chipped and a few bulbs are out. When they are sitting there broke, you start to notice a lot of stuff.

No one, and I mean no one is more disappointed by the breakdowns than the Rotary.

BTW: The clown was not with the carnival. Several of the food booths, games, etc are groups that sub-contract with a variety of different carnivals depending on who will let them in and where they are playing. The foul-mouthed clown was relieved of duty. His replacement was insulting (which is how he tries to incite business), but at least wasn't foul-mouthed (that we know of). I hated them both.

-- Posted by brazilian on Wed, Jul 6, 2011, at 11:25 AM

I have it on good authority that one the Himalaya dindt make it due to being in a wreck on its way here. Two the rides not running were due to water from their first night. It rained and got electronics wet.

Do I believe those? Not sure. But I can tell you this much CVS is the worst carnival I have seen in my life. And what was with only one lemon shake up stand? Was there a clause in the contract that stated no others could set up?

The only highlight for me this year was the Van Dell's. I don't even bother to watch the fireworks anymore. If something isn't done fast this celebration may have very well been one of the last for Brazil and Clay County.

-- Posted by dxrs0 on Wed, Jul 6, 2011, at 11:47 AM

Vending, is great monet making. isnt there local venders to set up to make money?

Rotary Club, last year , you saw a problem and tried to fix it this year. so maybe they didn't do All their homework.

Brazil people , stick together and lets make the 4th of July carnival back to what we remember.

I see people begging for money @ walmart, 40 and 59.

-- Posted by carebuttonbroke on Wed, Jul 6, 2011, at 11:56 AM

Vending, is great monet making. isnt there local venders to set up to make money?

Rotary Club, last year , you saw a problem and tried to fix it this year. so maybe they didn't do All their homework.

Brazil people , stick together and lets make the 4th of July carnival back to what we remember.

I see people begging for money @ walmart, 40 and 59.

-- Posted by carebuttonbroke on Wed, Jul 6, 2011, at 11:56 AM

Brazilian, I appreciate the input, particularly that you are a Rotary member.

I too went and saw CVS last year after I learned they had gotten our event. They were easy to find as they were in Spencer for the Owen County Fair last year. My impression of them there was NOT fine. Maybe I'm pickier, but after reading many comments on here, maybe I'm not.

I really don't enjoy complaining about this, in fact I would be one of your biggest supporters if the situation was different. But I don't want to see this event wither on the vine, which I'm afraid it will if this is the product we will see going forward.

dxrs0, I likewise have it on good authority that the Himalaya was missing for other reasons. Rain in electronics? These rides are meant to be used outdoors, besides some of these rides (again on good authority) were having problems before they got rained on in Brazil.

They just sold the "High Energy" to a carnival in Michigan. Notice the trending of this carnival and get out of the contract while you can (if you can).

Rotary, you have a wonderful event. Please don't let what occurred this year to continue.

-- Posted by ClayCountyGuy on Wed, Jul 6, 2011, at 12:33 PM

@ClayCountyGuy It was just what I was told. Something about the circuit boards getting wet the day they pulled in. I can not say who my source is but I do know they are with the Rotary.

I appreciate what they do for this community and they do alot. And yes perhaps they were thinking more with their pockets since they got to keep most if not all the money raised from ride tickets. The financial part I am unsure about. I think next year they might want to reconsider CVS or at least something/someone different. We all make mistakes, and we are suppose to learn from those.

The one thing that matters is the kids had fun. And that is all that Matters!

-- Posted by dxrs0 on Wed, Jul 6, 2011, at 1:56 PM

The next question is why was the last carnival replaced? I didn't hear these kind of complaints and at this point I would think that we can all agree they were better than the carnival this year. So why the change? Was purely financial considerations?

Brazilian, can you help us out here?

-- Posted by ClayCountyGuy on Wed, Jul 6, 2011, at 3:05 PM

I wonder why some of the local food vendors who partake in the Covered Bridge Festival don't set up booths during 4th of July?

I didn't go to the park this year. Seems every year I am more and more disappointed. This year, it didn't take being at the park to disappoint me, but the thrones of people who rudely parked in apartment complex spaces instead of the empty LEGION parking lot!

-- Posted by Emmes on Thu, Jul 7, 2011, at 11:49 AM

There are many communities that have Independence Day celebrations. Most all of them have carnival's. We are not very high on the totem pole in terms of money they can make. So why come here when they can make more money in Lebanon or some other city where they can make more money. We are getting what we can afford.

CC Guy, $$$$$$$$$. It is always the money.

-- Posted by Conservative Dad on Fri, Jul 8, 2011, at 9:20 AM

Conservative Dad,

I know for a fact that the previous carnival that came here was not dismissed because of broken down rides, or poor quality. They also did not leave because they got a better offer somewhere else, in fact they were not even operating this 4th of July. They were replaced because they weren't willing to give the locals the percentage of the overall take that CVS was willing to give them.

But if the new carnival gives a bigger percentage of an overall smaller take (less money charged for tickets combined with a smaller number of overall patrons), then Rotary has lost on all counts; less money they recieve, a lesser quality operation presented to the public, and a damaged image of this event. Not exactly a win-win-win situation here. Quite the opposite.

So maybe it was intended to be money grab (and maybe not), but clearly it didn't turn out as hoped. So again, why was the last carnival replaced?

-- Posted by ClayCountyGuy on Fri, Jul 8, 2011, at 2:12 PM

ClayCountyGuy: agree. You get what you pay for comes to mind. I do agree with the previous post. The KIDS had fun. My son drove over from TH, spent money to buy the tickets, and there were only like 3 rides operating. Next time, they will walk around first BEFORE they spend the money on the tickets. I do appreciate the Rotary, I just hope they are listening.

-- Posted by Conservative Dad on Tue, Jul 12, 2011, at 12:55 PM

C C Guy and Con Dad, where did you find all that info? I was very enlightened and fascinated by the inner workings of the whole deal. I have always found carnivals interesting but never researched or leavened anything about them. I never realized they have contracts and bids like in the construction business. I always assumed that a carnival stays their local area but their website says Tennessee. That's really cool. I am glad I stumbled onto this. Any help on where you found all your info from would be great. Thanks for the learning. : p

-- Posted by IndianaJones on Sun, Jul 17, 2011, at 6:46 PM


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