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Board has no control over golf course

Wednesday, July 13, 2011

During its meeting Tuesday, the Brazil Parks Board emphasized it does not have control over Forest Park Gold Course, but alcoholic beverages are still not allowed in the park itself. Jessica Murray Photo. [Order this photo]
Brazil Parks Board members say they have no control over the decision concerning the sell of alcohol at Forest Park Golf Course and their main concern is safety.

Board members have received criticism as a result of debates about the golf course selling alcohol, but the board wanted to clarify to the community they are not in control of the decision.

During its monthly meeting Tuesday evening, the board discussed its opinions.

"At one time, the park board was in control over of the park and the golf course," Parks Board President Ruthann Jeffries said. "But in 1981, the city created a Golf Board to handle all Golf Course affairs, and the Park Board was relieved of any decisions concerning the golf course."

Jeffries added the park budget is spent to maintain the three parks and no money is used to fund the golf course.

"When people take a look at the golf course and the park, they see it as one entity, but it's not. It's two," board member Caroline McCullough told those in attendance. "We're not being supportive of our own rules if we don't enforce the rule with no alcoholic beverages in the park."

Forest Park Golf Course Professional Mark Rogers told The Brazil Times the facility is licensed to sell alcohol on the course now, but is waiting to do so per a city council decision to include selling it in the clubhouse.

"We adhere to all state laws with caution, considering we are dealing with the public so we'll have a more controlled environment," Rogers said. "We do have insurance and we've checked with the excise police concerning the proximity of the school."

In addition, Rogers said they hope selling alcohol will increase revenue because they are not supported by tax dollars.

"We realize that everyone is hurting for money and the golf course is trying to find ways to increase their revenue. We just want to make sure everyone is safe," Jeffries said.

In addition, other board members said they agreed with Jeffries.

"What I'm concerned about is drivers driving through the park, running stop signs and it's just one more chance for someone to hit a child," Parks Superintendent Bill Houck said. "Ninety-nine percent of the time they'll be gentlemen, but it's that one percent that can endanger lives, and there's no other entry to the golf course than to come through the park."

Board member Linda Messmer added, "As a park board member, we do try to enforce the rules to try and make the park as safe as possible. According to the ordinance, we don't allow alcohol in the park, and if the golf course is going to encourage this, it increases the risk of danger for those in the park because of its geographic location."

However, one board member does expect much of a change from current conditions.

"I've spent time patrolling in the park and my concern is the safety of the children," board member Todd Brackman said. "They're probably carrying alcohol on the golf course anyway, so I'm not sure how much of a problem it will present."

Jeffries and Messmer planned to attend Wednesday evening's city council meeting to voice their opinions to the council.

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1]So Golf course is private property and not public?

2]So property taxes are collected for the golf course property and it is not an exempt property?

3]So no government owned equipment nor government employees are used to maintain the golf course?

4] So since they already have a liquor license isn't the practice of allowing beer to be brought onto premises illegal and could cause establishment to lose their license?

IF the land is publicly owned OR exempt from taxes I should think that local government could keep alcohol from being served there on a regular basis. It doesn't have to be part of the park.

Seems that the public doesn't want alcohol sold on public property so if in fact this is public property maybe it needs to be decided in the fall and voted upon by the people.??

While a drunk driver could come from anywhere and drive through Forest Park, if the golf course is public property, the PEOPLE should be able to vote on whether or not alcohol can be sold OR brought in to drink there.

Have a good day.

-- Posted by Jenny Moore on Thu, Jul 14, 2011, at 7:40 AM

Maybe it's time the park board is given the control back of the golf coarse.

-- Posted by brazilian on Thu, Jul 14, 2011, at 10:23 AM

maybe Brazil should get rid of Boards ( to many chiefs) go with one person, it's not that hard to run a park. if there are concerns about breaking the law , have brazil police patrol . secure the park when closed if people are going to tear it up , they will tear it up. Maybe the golf course may become a nice place to drink , brazil needs a nice club.

-- Posted by carebuttonbroke on Thu, Jul 14, 2011, at 11:03 AM


But there are already clubs here where a person can play golf and have a drink at the end of their game. Why another on public property? Is this responsible use of public funds and assetts?


Can't have it both ways. Either the alcohol can be brown bagged in OR they can sell it. I don't believe it can be both.

There are a number of courses in this area with quite good ratings. Oakridge, right outside of town, has one of the highest ratings of all in the area. Let people go drink alcohol at a private course.

See: http://www.golflink.com/golf-courses/cit...

-- Posted by Jenny Moore on Thu, Jul 14, 2011, at 1:41 PM

Jenny, no sure what your complaint is.the golf course has a liquor license? if so what's the problem? bringing on the course itself, how can any one control that? to me that is like bringing a beer on ur property and calling the cops on you.

As for clubs in Brazil ,lol bars maybe people have been playing golf and drinking for years. it's the driving afterwards that scare me. i do say keep trying to save the world or at least Brazil

-- Posted by carebuttonbroke on Thu, Jul 14, 2011, at 2:52 PM

The golf course is municipally owned property and does not pay any property taxes now. They do not pay for the water used as I understand it. I would think that would give them an advantage over any private owned golf courses in operating within a budget. Selling alcohol could affect there tax exempt status.

-- Posted by leelie on Thu, Jul 14, 2011, at 6:36 PM


You are so right, they do not pay a water bill which would be several Thousand dollars each year.This is picked up by adding more to our water bills so when councilman B.Lovett states the golf course is completely self supporting as he did in the meeting he could'nt be more wrong.

-- Posted by clycogrl on Thu, Jul 14, 2011, at 10:59 PM

well i think EVERYONE should Pay for water and property taxes

-- Posted by carebuttonbroke on Thu, Jul 14, 2011, at 11:24 PM

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